That finale sealed the deal for us.

As you all know, Taylor and I were a little unsure how we felt about Ms. Marvel as a whole after episodes 4 and 5, mainly because of the plot being a little funky from it. We had a lot of needs coming into this episode and may I say, it met each and every one. For the most part, it covered everything we needed it to in order to marry episodes 1-3 with episodes 4 and 5. I don’t want to get to much into it just yet before I make sure everyone has a chance to listen to the full podcast episode in-depth that covers what we thought about the episode altogether, along with some of the important moments. You can click the button below to find the listening platform of your choice or start listening in live time by clicking play on the link below.

Let’s start this all off with saying the biggest thing I am still not a fan of was that the DODC ended up being the main villian of the show. I think this very much goes off the issues Taylor and I both have with the plot, and while they showed up in episode 6 strong and mighty, it didn’t help ease the disconnect. The Clandestines were a threat that were very equal to Kamala and there felt that there was more of a personal issue at stake between the two sides. Having the DODC be the villain felt sort of like a cop-out. Regardless, this won’t be the end of them, although I do expect them to be silent for awhile. Keep in mind, so far when we have seen them they have really been going after heroes who have been in the public eye. They also, so far, have been kids. One thing I want to point out is the rift that is clear between the two main agents at the DODC. While the man is clearly bonkers, he still very much understands that public image is important, which might force me to throw out my thoughts on them being Kree or Skrull. At this point, they are likely just a funky and possibly corrupt government agency that has been given quite a bit of power in the last few years and doesn’t quite know how to use it. I think that when the Young Avengers appear, the DODC will be a very imminent threat to them, since so far, they fit their MO.

The high school scene is definitely going to go down for me as one of my top MCU show moments, as I don’t think you can beat how freaking funny it was. It was very Home Alone-like and I think it was just beautifully done. In that moment, all the characters are putting everything on the line for Kamala and you can really see the loyalty her friends and family have for her. This is so important to her story and even expands further, as her entire community protects her during the fight scene outside of the school a few clips later. The reason I say this is extremely important to her story is because in the comics, Kamala very much can be considered a home body. She protects Jersey City and her people there as that is her turf, so I think the show also showing how the people respect and protect her as well is really powerful for her character background.

Since I have been sort of talking about it, let’s get into this fight scene with Kamran, Kamala, and the DODC. I want to get into Kamran’s storyline a little more specifically in a second, but as a whole, this fight scene was shocking, to say the least. I think what bothered me was how the DODC was treating these kids, especially in front of all the onlookers. But at the end of the day, I loved that it was Kamala who talked down Kamran and protected him, making sure he could escape and get to safety. They’re very similar, which will be an interesting dichotomy that will likely be addressed in another season or movie. I think the three different forces allowed Kamala to grow into the hero we knew she would become and her trying her best not to hurt people is what did it for me. She’s a kid who has these abilities and is just trying to do the right thing. Once again, this is paralleled in Kamran, who allows his anger to control him at times and has little control over his own abilities. The DODC was the perfect villain for Kamran, but Kamran walking a line between good and bad is the real fight Kamala needed to be in. All around, it was written and executed perfectly.

While we didn’t get the full Kamran villian-origin story in this episode, we definitely walked the border of it and I fully believe this was done to show us it is possible. This entire episode proved he had trouble controlling his powers, much more than Kamala, possibly because his powers come from the Veil and not the Noor dimension as a whole. Regardless, I still stand by my theory that the Veil will corrupt him over time and use him as a vessel for its’ power. His ending also very much sets up another season or movie (although season is most likely), even though we won’t see him again for a good bit. If another season comes, I wouldn’t be shocked if he was the villain in the long run. As I mentioned before, the final fight scene cut those lines pretty clearly and showed the differences between him and Kamala, differences that would make her a hero and him a question mark.

There was one thing we didn’t have much time for in the podcast that I want to quick address and that was how Kamala’s powers were. So, I personally don’t love the way that they portray her powers now that we have seen more of them, but I understand why they had to do it this way. During the fight scene, her ‘Embiggen’ was iconic, don’t get me wrong, but she looked really funky and it felt almost comical and not in a good way. I know this all comes down to her being a little too close to Mr. Fantastic’s abilities, but it still felt a little off. I would like to see if maybe they can make it look a little better when we see her in The Marvels.

The season finale gave us two really important end credits, one that blew our brains and one that we expected. Getting into the first one, we seemingly have gotten confirmation that Kamala is going to be the first Mutant in the MCU. Now, we didn’t have this information during the recording so it isn’t in the podcast, but we have since also gotten confirmation that Kamala was actually supposed to be a mutant in the comics. The only problem was that she came much later than the rest of the original mutants, and by the time she arrived there was already the split rights with Fox. So in order to use her, they made her an Inhuman to avoid fighting for rights with Fox, which all means that once again rights came into all of it (move over Spidey, you’re not the only poster child anymore for rights issues). This all being said, the mutants are coming, which we all knew, but Kamala is the first in our universe to be confirmed. This also means we can probably throw out our hopes and dreams of Inhumans, as for now it is unlikely that they would introduce both groups around the same time anyway.

Lastly, the end credit scene that didn’t seem to surprise many of us was the appearance of Captain Marvel at the very end of Ms. Marvel episode 6. Now, while we might not have been too surprised at her appearance, since The Marvels is right around the corner, I want to discuss how she got there. So as soon as they did their little switcharoo I immediately went to see if Carol had any bracelet on her arm or something that could be like the bangle. We know the bangle was what caused them to switch, so I was curious to see if Carol found the second one as it had been confirmed that there were two. Alternatively, she could have found it, but wasn’t at the time wearing it, just standing close enough to it. Either way, now Carol is on Earth and Kamala is, well, who knows. So how will The Marvels go? I assume Carol will go looking for people she knows on Earth, while Kamala might have landed up with Fury. This would connect her to Monica and would be the first destination for Carol after she leaves Earth. I do hope we get a scene with Carol interacting with Kamala’s family, just to solidify everything from this series to the film, but either way Kamala is about to get into something a lot bigger than she saw in her show.

Believe it or not this is the end of our coverage on Ms. Marvel, as we have officially crossed it off our list as one of the last Phase 4 shows. Of course, there has been a lot of news out of Comic Con over the past week and you better believe we will be covering it. This Friday, you can look forward to that episode! Also make sure you are signed up for our Newsletter, which will arrive in your email the first of each month. Lot’s of stuff to look forward to so stay tuned, as Marvel just blew your mind, so let’s talk about it.

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