Transcript

Taylor: Welcome listeners to another episode of Sisters Assembled. Still very much in our Loki coverage, though we took a break last episode to talk a little bit about The Marvels. We’re returning back to the realm of Loki and the maybe nonexistent TVA this week. So a lot to talk about, an interesting episode, and I’m very ready to dive in. So, Katie, as always, you’re up to bat first.

Katie: It definitely was an interesting episode, and I think it was one of those, I was very torn. Leaving that episode, I was very torn because I felt like there was a lot I needed to know. I feel like a lot happened, but at the same time, felt like nothing happened that actually furthered the real plot of the show. I don’t know if that makes sense, but that is just my inner feelings about what went down on this episode. It was definitely interesting. I did say to Taylor before we were texting back and forth after I watched it and I had known she’d already seen it, and I even kind of said, like Marvel struggles a little bit with this six-show dynamic and I think that’s part of why they’re trying to shift it. Thank goodness, because I definitely do think they struggle with it because time and time again they have an amazing Episode Four and then I feel like we kind of just we get a little tripped up on Episode Five because I think Marvel’s trying to be like, wow, we just came off this really amazing thing and then we have an episode, but then we have the end of the show and they like try to figure out what to do in that middle episode. So I think that’s what happened here a little bit. It was still a good episode. Like I said, there was a lot of information, a lot of things that we needed to know to keep going but it definitely compared to, you know, Episode Four, we dropped a little bit. I know Taylor feels very differently or at least strongly in a different direction.

Taylor: It’s not that I just think I actually feel your feelings much more to the extreme. I feel like I enjoyed the actual episode itself, really up until the last few minutes when they basically undid everything that happened in Episode Four or gave him the opportunity to undo the everything that happened in Episode Four. I think what’s really frustrating to me is we spent the entirety and this isn’t about us in our predictions at all, but we spent the entirety of our reactions to Episode Four talking about the crazy ramifications of having the loom blow up and then we started to see them actually happening, right? We saw what happens when a timeline actually dies, which is horrifying. It’s actually like what happened to Victor Timely on a much larger scale to everything. I’m good if I never see that again. But we started to see like, oh my gosh, and then some of the characters we really liked started to be affected. Okay, I’m not going to lie, I was so upset when they killed O.B. I was like, absolutely not, this is one step too far and I might need to leave the room. But then they allowed Loki to go back in time and make it as though it never happened. And I think this is something that we’ve talked about on many shows and movies, that they have these big grand scales, and then Marvel finds a way to go, oops, just kidding, we don’t want this to actually have this much impact so we’re going to walk it all back. And I think, unfortunately, that’s kind of the direction we’re going in Episode Six is Loki is going to find a way to save the day, which is fine, but in doing that, everything that happened in Episode Five, other than the knowledge that we gain, is absolutely moot. It doesn’t mean anything and the end of Episode Four is absolutely useless. So all of the excitement that we had for all the opportunities opposed and, you know, all the crises that it poses, you know, on the other side of the coin, they don’t mean anything because he’s just going to go back in time and undo it and it’s like, oh okay, glad you couldn’t commit to that one, too and it’s just very frustrating to me. 

Katie: No, I definitely think those are some fair things to say and you know, you were saying that to me earlier and I don’t disagree. I think it’s so hard and I think this is how I feel like this kind of happened in the first season of Loki to a different extent but I feel like we struggled with that there, too. It’s always Episode Five, right? Like, it feels like I think the only exception, and maybe this is just because it’s closest to my brain is Secret Invasion. I thought Secret Invasion had the same tone, same tone, same tone, and then Episode Five was prepping for that final thing. It felt like a norm, it honestly felt like a movie. We could have sat there and released that as a movie.

Taylor: Yeah, and it was good through Episode Five like it was consistently to your point, the tone, the stakes were rising, rising and rising and it wasn’t until Six where we were like, boop, and there it is. But this one up, boop, there it is on Episode Five. We’ve talked about this many times, and I know there’s a crazy article out there right now about everything that’s going on at Marvel and all of the changes. I sent it to Katelyn last night, it’s a fascinating read. We’ll put it in the show notes if you guys haven’t had a chance to check it out, but it is definitely worth reading. But one of the points that they’re talking about is the struggles that they’ve had with the shows. And if you think back to pretty much every single show that we have watched and we have covered, there’s always been at least one episode where we’re like, ah, here’s the Mulligan episode, this is the one where they didn’t know what to do with it, or they just completely screwed the pooch in the case of Secret Invasion, because you know what to do with the finale. They just didn’t execute so there’s always one and this happened to be, Episode Five happened to be Loki Season Two’s Mulligan Episode, where it’s like, all right, you had me until right now, and now you lost me. Now you have to work extra hard in Episode Six to get me to feel the way I felt in Episodes One through Four.

Katie: Yeah, I think that’s a fair take. I think, I don’t know and again, we said it earlier, I’m not sure I feel quite as strongly about that, but I understand your feelings. I definitely have like a much milder version of those feelings. I do think, as I said at the beginning, though, we learned a lot. I just think it’s hard because we learned it only to feel like it’s not important almost anymore and I don’t mean that weirdly, maybe this is going to show who I am, but like I was the type of kid who wanted to learn something that would affect my life, not something that never would. Like I learned what is it? The Pythagorean theorem. Have I used that since I learned it? No or like, what is the cosine and all that? Couldn’t tell, I don’t even know what they all are because I learned it and never had to use it again in my life, useless knowledge.

Taylor: Commonly known as trigonometry.

Katie: Exactly. I was not good at trig. I was not good at math but Trig really whooped my butt. But honestly, I feel like that’s kind of what this was because I’m watching the episode and I’m like, okay, so it’s a little bit of a slower episode, that’s fine. I don’t need action and everything, I don’t need the stakes to be, you know, at 100 all the time, totally chillin’. So I’m like, okay, cool, we’re learning great things and then to your point, though, the very end shows us Loki returning right back to that moment where Victor walks down those steps to go and stop the or try to fix the loom. And you’re like, oh okay and it almost feels like it’s own episode of What If? so I didn’t hate it that way because I was like, okay, so we know if they fail, we see the outcome, pretty much everything falls apart. But I think what I was struggling with is you raise those stakes and I think if this was the type of show that had more than six episodes, we could have lived in this weird, things are falling apart kind of world much longer and I would have felt like we weren’t just undoing what we just did. But now I’m like, okay, so now you know they’re going to go back. They’re going to have to do something differently. They’re going to not be able to fail because we’ve seen what failure looks like. And that was kind of all we got out of this at the end of the day because what we learned doesn’t really apply anymore because we’re just going right back to what we did before.

Taylor: Yeah, and that’s why it’s so frustrating because I really don’t want to sound like all doom and gloom here, but I was like, ready for some serious issues. I wanted what we saw Loki go through and what happened to those branches. I wanted to see that on a large scale, not to be like, weird, but like that’s where I thought we were going and we started to see it, we started to see it and those last few minutes, I actually was getting really excited because I was like, now things are getting really real. These characters that we have really grown to love and again like we talked about this in a previous episode, but this is the first series where we’ve got to come back to characters, you know, that are not now in a different franchise, but they’re still in the same franchise together as a unit growing and learning and evolving together. And so there’s a certain level of not nostalgia, but like you feel for them as a group and you like them as a group.

Katie: You have a connection to them.

Taylor: Exactly and it kind of is like almost the theme of the episode was that they’re almost better together, right? And he needed them all together to figure out his time slipping and all that stuff. But I say all that to say, like those last few minutes, then were starting to really hit. Like I said when O.B. went I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. And then, all the other characters, obviously like Mobius. I was really bummed when B-15 started going, and you’re starting to, but you’re also getting excited, at least if you’re me, you’re also getting excited because you like real stakes, real stakes. Things are going to go nuts and also, selfishly, this is why Loki goes a little crazy when he, like, loses things that are important to him. That’s when Loki goes off the deep end, and that’s a very fun version of Loki to watch. So I was also like, well, now what’s Loki going to do? Because he’s now lost his entire support system. And I was like, maybe he’ll just go to Thor, that was a whole thing that I was waiting for this episode too, and like not to be that person but I was very disappointed. But to get back on my point, I was excited by those last few minutes and then he found a way to undo it and I was like, what was the point then? What did I just watch for 45 minutes only for you to go back to literally the last few minutes of the last episode?

Katie: Yeah, I honestly, I actually think my bigger struggle through all of this was actually more of why Loki? Because, okay, we start this episode and we’re following him and he begins the timeslipping again in the TVA and then we’re in a loop again and I’m just going to ignore that because that doesn’t make sense to me and that hurts my brain.

Taylor: And it’s never been explained.

Katie: Right and the rules that they set for us in Season One, I mean, not that they talked about timeslipping or time loops or stuff, but like the way it was set, and then even O.B. says at the beginning of the series, he’s like, that shouldn’t be possible here. And I’m like, that’s great, no explanation as to why. So we’re just going to skip past that. We don’t need to pay attention to that part of it. But as soon as I saw Loki slipping back around the TVA, I was like, are you freaking kidding me? Because I just wanted this man to go back to where he was when he was taken from the TVA, which was supposed to be on a branched timeline. And so I was like, why is Loki not there? But then I was like, maybe no one’s there just to find everybody else went back to their branched timeline. So the entire rest of the show I’m sitting here and maybe and honestly, I probably missed half of it solely because I’m in my head going, why is Loki timeslipping for one? Why is he the only one who didn’t go back to his branched timeline like everyone else did for two? That doesn’t make sense to me and then even at the end there and now we don’t know because he timeslipped, but he wasn’t noodling like everybody else. So I was like, what does this mean? And I have to say, I don’t know who said it. I was on Twitter because that’s where I go when I need to figure things out and someone suggested that he is now a Nexus being. Don’t ask me how that makes sense but I was like, maybe in the way that these rules don’t seem to all be applying to him and somehow I mean, he’s probably going to become He Who Remains at this point, like he’s going to be the next version.

Taylor: Yeah, no, I think those are a series of really good questions and things that I was kind of thinking during the episode, but not necessarily verbalizing, if that makes sense. They were kind of like these amorphous questions in the back of my head but it is like on a surface level, it’s just because somebody has to be aware, right? Somebody has to get the gang back together. Somebody has to be able to fix it, at least according to how the episode actually ended. In a perfect world, everybody would just go back. I mean, realistically, think about it this way if they weren’t so stuck and I’ll get back to your other questions, I promise. I just want to pose this because I actually think it’s a really interesting thought experiment. If they weren’t so incredibly stuck on this six-episode format, they could have ended it at four and a half, five, like a short five, and had everybody go back. We spend a little time with everybody on their branched timeline and then they’re done because it’s not like this show lives in a vacuum. You can pick up these stories then in other franchises and in other movies that are going to be, you know, Multiversal based, whether that next one is Kang Dynasty or whether we don’t see these characters again till Secret Wars, whatever that is, that to me, that shock factor, that’s blowing up the formula that already wasn’t working, do that. That would have been insane and you would have had me on here having a very different conversation with you about how Marvel was completely unhinged and I was so incredibly here for it so I do want to put that out. But now, going back to what you were saying, as I said, I think logistically you just need someone who’s out there trying to put the pieces back together. Why is it Loki? It’s Loki’s show. Let’s just, you know, be honest. That’s why it is.

Katie: Which makes me happy because I feel like we lost that in Season One where it wasn’t Loki show, even though it was named Loki. 

Taylor: Yeah, and I totally agree. I think that in and of itself is an improvement from Season One because we remembered who we’re actually supposed to be focusing on, as a main character. But I think that’s the reason why, I don’t think Loki is necessarily special. I don’t know why he would be a Nexus being. I also don’t think at this juncture, I don’t think he is. I think what they’ve said in the TVA, especially in Season One, about him being one of the most popular variants, his mischievous nature makes him naturally more likely to be a variant or to step off the quote-unquote Sacred Timeline. And so that to me means he can’t be a Nexus being because isn’t the whole idea just to make sure I’m checking my own knowledge, the idea of a Nexus being as you are one within the Multiverse, there’s one Scarlet Witch. Yes, there are multiple Wandas as we saw it but there’s one Wanda who embodies the Scarlet Witch, and that was our 616.

Katie: Right so that is definitely my understanding, my thought process of why I think this Twitter user was saying it and why I don’t hate that idea is I think and again, this goes down to the root of we don’t know why Loki’s timeslipping. We didn’t know in Episode One. We don’t know now in Episode Five. It’s just that there’s been no explanation as to why that’s been happening yet, he is the only one who’s been doing that. I think Monica is a great example. She went through the Hex too many times and got superpowers. I just wonder if whatever Loki’s been going through, he’s just done it one too many times and now his timeslipping almost is essentially a superpower, and that makes him different than everything else. He’s no longer a regular variant because he now has this ability, as he even says, to rewrite the entire story. He can go through time and and go where he needs to go on his own and redo everything. He doesn’t need a tempad, he doesn’t need any of that stuff. So I almost like that’s kind of my only thought process behind that argument is that you know how Wanda only has one version, that’s the Scarlet Witch? Well, there might be only this one, Loki now, who has this ability to timeslip, therefore making him a Nexus being especially with time in the Multiverse, that definitely, I mean, out of all the things he could be doing. Timeslipping seems like one of the most impactful things when you talk about those topics.

Taylor: Yeah, I see that. I think to play devil’s advocate, couldn’t you say that every variant version is one of a kind, right? You have a variant version that does this, well, that’s probably only happening once, right? Or, you know, there are definitely other variants who have only stepped off in that particular way, a particular way once. Like maybe this variant is the only one who took the Tesseract. Maybe Kid Loki is the only variant who killed Thor. I don’t think that makes them necessarily Nexus beings, you know what I mean?

Katie: No, I know. I’m always saying it’s the power, I think he almost has been given on accident. And again like we don’t really know what the timeslipping is, I don’t know how it’s happening. Nobody seems to know how it’s happening, especially in the TVA specifically. It’s been just kind of this big question mark, but that’s why I’m kind of comparing it to how, you know, any Wanda could have become the Scarlet Witch.

Taylor: Correct.

Katie: This the only reason that it happened to 616 is because that is where the lore was and her story aligned with it and I mean, like in the MCU, I don’t even mean like the greater scale. I’m saying her story like literally Wanda in the MCU as her story was unfolding, led her I mean, we learn she’s a mutant. Not all Wandas could be mutants across the board like it just all the pieces fell into place and the lore of the Scarlet Witch existed in that universe and it met up with Wanda and said, this is the perfect person, and boom, there’s your Scarlet Witch. And I am almost wondering if, you know, in whatever travels Loki’s been through all of his adventures through time, to the end of time, to everything else, I almost wonder if the same thing has almost happened where whatever this timeslipping is has almost shifted something in him, has allowed him to have a different asset or power that no other like across the universe, no other variant would have had. And because it’s now this one thing, maybe his ability to timeslip and the way he has it and the ability to control it makes him what a Nexus being would be. There’s no other version of him or another being like that who has that ability in the Multiverse.

Taylor: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think it has merit. I think it’s very, very interesting and I like it. I especially like it, I think it works on a couple of levels. You just explained a lot of them. I also think even if you want to take away, you know, the Nexus being part, I just like the fact that he has this new superpower right? I was thinking about that during the episode, like we all know Loki’s just a magical being. Well, now we can add this new power to his arsenal, which is he’s a one-man time-traveling machine. He literally can go any time, any place, anywhere in all of the Multiverse, which really there’s only one other person who could do that and she can’t go back and forth in time and that’s America Chavez. So that’s really very interesting because they have super similar powers now in some ways, there are obviously some nuances. He’s a little more time-focused, she’s a little more universe-focused. But if you think about him moving across branches is he not moving across universes as well? So, you know, I think I would love actually now that I’m thinking about it, those two to meet, because I think they’d have some very interesting conversations about their powers and what they mean and how to control them because remember, she struggled with that as well. And so I think that’s super interesting. I’d actually also love to see looking a little bit of a mentor role so I am putting that out in the universe. I’d like to have him Hawkeye to Kate Bishop, Loki to America Chavez because I think that would be really hilarious. I know she’s already got Strange, but, you know, whatever.

Katie: Yeah, I was going to say don’t, don’t throw my man Strange out the window. 

Taylor: Strange has Peter. Strange took over for Tony on Peter.

Katie: Dd he because I’m pretty sure he’s the one who mucked everything up for Peter and now nobody knows who he is.

Taylor: Darn, I forgot about that.

Katie: I knew you did. That’s why I was like, I’ve got the winning chess move right here.

Taylor: As much as I think that was the right decision to end that movie and to this day, I think it is one of the best decisions that Marvel has made in a movie. Sometimes it really cramps my style when I’m theorizing and putting things out into the universe.

Katie: Yeah, well, I don’t know. I’m not against that duo, I think it’s interesting. And I’m just gonna throw this out here just as a thought point to what you said. I would argue kind of when Wanda was full Scarlet Witch evil, she kind of also had those abilities to move across.

Taylor: Oh, yeah, well, she couldn’t physically move.

Katie: She’s different, yeah, she’s definitely not the same but I just want to say, because you said it so definitively and I don’t want to leave it out of being that definitive, because she was definitely kind of in that wonky zone.

Taylor: Well, to clarify, physically moving between universes and times. Wanda couldn’t, remember, that’s why she needed America was she couldn’t physically do it. She could dream walk, but she could not physically, you know, actually go from universe to universe. That’s why she wanted America’s powers. So if you’re looking at actual physical moving from one universe to another, the only two people who we see and who can do it are America and Loki.

Katie: Yeah.

Taylor: Now Loki.

Katie: Yeah. Well, I think it’s interesting and I want to bring up the second or I don’t know, could have been like the fourth point I was making was possibly Loki stepping into the He Who Remains spot. Now we’ve talked about this already. We talked about it more specifically him and Sylvie but this has been one of those things we’ve talked about since Season One because of what happened at the end of Season One and pretty much the fact that He Who Remains was trying to make that deal with them and Sylvie took the other way without discussing anything and we’ve been seeing the ramifications of that. I do think at this point, especially with Loki’s newfound abilities and everything, I wouldn’t be shocked to see him take on that mantle, especially because, quite frankly, if they didn’t send him back to his supposed branched timeline when he was supposed to go back like everybody else did, I don’t know where they’d lead this character.

Taylor: Yeah, I think there are a few things to unpack there that are important to discuss for the future of the character. One being think about what’s going to happen when he goes back right at the beginning of Episode Six. He’s going back to the exact moment before all the poo poo hit the fan, which means none of the people with him knows what’s about to happen. He’s the only one with the knowledge. He’s the only one who’s going to truly understand what a catastrophe they’re about to face and that all of them are going to die. And for that reason, I think he’s going to be able to make the hard choice to prune the branches, to prune the timelines, to make them fit because I think what we’ve seen is there’s no way to fix the loom.

Katie: I don’t even know if that’s the bigger problem. I think what we’ve actually seen is you don’t win either way.

Taylor: But here’s what I’m saying. If he has to prune the branches and decide what is the Sacred Timeline, he’s doing exactly what He Who Remains did in the first place.

Katie: No, no, I know. I agree. I just meant more like it isn’t even about fixing the loom. It’s the fact how you were saying you can’t. It’s also the fact that he’s seen you don’t win either way. You either prune the branches trying to go into the loom so the loom stabilizes and continues to do its job, or you let the loom blow up and every branched timeline falls apart anyway. Which on its own accord when you get into why that seems to be happening because I don’t really understand why that’s happening but maybe we’ll get an explanation. We probably never will, but I don’t really know why the branched timelines are falling apart.

Taylor: Yeah, I do think we need to address it because I know you want to stay out of the MCU. I know you do. I can see it. I can feel it from as far away as we are from one another physically right now but I think we need to talk about it now because that was our focus last episode was all right, great loom blew up. Now here are all these things we think you’re going to happen. Clearly, we were wrong on every one of them.

Katie: I mean, your girl was out here, I was like solidly saying that I was like, the Multiverse has fully formed. Now this makes full logical sense.

Taylor: I had an entire specific theory around Battleworld. So I think we were both very specifically wrong in very different ways. But I will say the one thing we were right about, and I do want to give us kudos is we said everybody was going go back. We said they were going to go back to their lives and we were right. I mean, Sylvie’s weird, she never really had a life.

Katie: But she still went back to that timeline.

Taylor: Yeah. Also, Casey would’ve never pegged that one. That was crazy.

Katie: Yeah, that was, I was like, what is going on? And then he’s like, Alcatraz and I was like, oh my God.

Taylor: I knew what it was when he, like, started, I didn’t know when he was in it but when he started escaping and he showed it was an island. I was like, I don’t remember what the name of that place is, but I know it’s a very bad place and I was like, I know what that is.

Katie: Oh no, I thought it was maybe because I can’t see things, but I thought it was on a boat. So I’m like, what are we doing on this boat? I was like, is this about to be the Titanic? I don’t know. 

Taylor: I thought that first and then when it showed I was an island, I was like, oh I know what that is but yeah, that was crazy so we were right about that. But otherwise, all of our other theories from the last episode are totally wrong. But you know, we were focused very, very focused on how it affects the wider MCU. Now we know that Loki’s going to go back in time and he’s going to fix it because that’s just how this is going to wrap up.

Katie: It has to.

Taylor: Yeah. I don’t think we’re going to go any further, or we need to go any deeper into that theory. I think, you know, everybody kind of feels that that’s where that’s going to go. I don’t want to speak for everybody, but at least everybody in this podcast duo, we both agree we’re going to fix this or Loki’s going to fix this in Episode Six, and it’s basically going to be that all this for us for nothing, which I really, really love a show with absolutely no stakes. It’s fine. But one thing I do think we need to address is if there are limitations to the Multiverse, which I think we’ve seen by the fact that the loom can only do so much. What does that mean then? Does that mean that the Multiverse is unsustainable? Does that mean that at a certain point, it’s going to get so big if Loki isn’t pruning at least some of the branches that we’re going to like, the Multiverse will collapse? I think what it’s showing is unfortunately, the Multiverse, or maybe fortunately, if you don’t like math, the Multiverse is unsustainable. So we’re not going to be able to hold it forever unless we continue to just prune new branches and say, we’re going to allow these 60 but the whole point of the Multiverse is it is unlimited possibilities. Unlimited universes, unlimited opportunity essentially to make different choices and create a whole nother path. It’s really the antithesis to say these are the sixty universes we’re going to allow to live. And then you got to talk about Battleworld and how does that all fit in? That’s why I’m frustrated because if the loom is essentially the limiter, shouldn’t the limiter be whatever causes Battleworld? I really thought it was going to be the loom, you know.

Katie: So in the nicest of ways, I think you’re looking at this in a very narrow-minded way because I think the situation is I would be shocked if Loki has to go back and prune everything. Yes, agreed but what does pruning everything account for? It buys time. They had a solution to expanding the loom. They fixed it. Theoretically, they just had to actually implement it. But they couldn’t because at that point the temporal energy was just like through the roof taking off because there were too many branches shoving through the loom. Well, if you prune all those branches, nothing is shoving through right away, right? You have the time, you have the window to fix the loom, to allow it to suck in all the branches the way it’s supposed to and we’re good. So I don’t know if it’s definitively saying like, we can only allow this many branches. I think it’s buying time until they can fix it, like the main first for episodes are trying to get to. That was the whole problem, right? I think we can still fix the loom. I just think unfortunately because I mean, they even said it when they bombed the branches. It bought time. It was buying time for the loom. That’s why the Loom didn’t explode in Episode Two because a bunch of branches was bombed, but they only bombed like I think it was below 50%. Of course, as far as the people who were there, like that was still homicidal. But at the end of the day, that might have to be the solution. They might have to cut everything off in order to allow it to grow later because there isn’t winning with this and Loki’s seen that.

Taylor: I actually really like that perspective a lot and I think it makes a lot of sense with what we see in the show. I think there are Easter eggs and lines, to your point with the bombings of the timelines earlier, because if you take that, if you don’t think about how it bought time, otherwise it’s just like what was the point of that little interlude, especially because Dock’s whole crew was murdered anyway. So it’s not like we even had a full TVA Civil War. It was just kind of like, boop, we’re going to come, we’re going to murder millions of people then boop, we’re going to get murdered ourselves like, okay, what was the point of that? But if we’re using it as almost like a light bulb for Loki, hey, not ideal, but when they killed all those people and they pruned those timelines, it bought us time to be able to at least get closer to a solution. Now we have a solution, we just need to be able to execute it and implement it. I like it. I think it makes a lot of sense and I think it follows a lot of the thinking or the way the show kind of thinks in the way the show’s progressed, you know, over this season. I think though, my question and you’re going to hate that I’m asking this because it comes back to our unending question that I thought we were finally going to get an answer to, when does Loki take place? Because does that mean that the Multiverse that we’ve seen to date, so I’m going to pick a property, I’m going to say, MoM, because it’s really one of the properties where we spend the most time traveling around the Multiverse. Are we to believe then that all of those universes that we visited in that show, sorry movie, are going to then be pruned only for new ones to grow? Because that’s like a whole mind trip to think about. That means America’s home universe is gone, 838 gone. I think those are the two that are most prominent in my head. Thinking about that is kind of like a lot to process.

Katie: Yeah, you’re right, I hate this. This feels like one of those math problems that just, like, kept going and now you have seven numbers, but you only have like three places you’re supposed to put numbers and you’re like, agh this doesn’t make sense. 

Taylor: Or like you look at the multiple choice and you have 78 the multiple choices, 96, 42, 14, and 4, and you’re like, guess something went wrong somewhere.

Katie: No, I’m always just like that one’s the closest guess I was off by a few. I think, so I’m going off of my thought process that I’ve kind of been having of if Loki went to the TVA off of the 2012 timeline. Now this is stupid and I know it’s stupid because we’ve talked about this already, and I know you’re laughing at me, but it is because it’s so hard, especially now that we’ve seen everybody go back to their branched timelines. We have people getting snatched from all over the place all the time because, before everything, the Sacred Circle is endless. That’s the point, it’s circular, and it keeps going. So variants continue to happen from, you know, 200 A.D. to now it’s just and into the future. It’s just is an ongoing thing but theoretically when Loki got snatched it was in 2012 in the TVA. Let’s just say it and I don’t agree with it, but I’m just going to go off of it.

Taylor: Shoddy foundation to start.

Katie: No, I know, but you know what horrible thing keeps coming back to me? Freaking 2016 Doctor Strange and that movie has put holes into everything I’ve thought. So I’m going to continue referencing it.

Taylor: I’ve never regretted like I enjoyed the replay, but I have never regretted doing a replay more than that because I was like, I feel good and then I started that movie and I was like everything I thought I knew was wrong because I didn’t remember anything in this film.

Katie: No, literally, like I agree with saying I don’t regret it because I like watching the movie, but I regret it because I’m like, crap. They were throwing stuff around out here and then one of us brought up the fact that America existed in general and was going through the Multiverse her entire life since she was like seven so theoretically you had to be open. So I’m going to go with, say Loki getting snatched in 2012, TVA is technically in 2012. Say we see him in Sylvie’s actions, blah, blah, blah blah, blah. Multiverse opens. Cool, because in four years when Doctor Strange comes onto the board, the Multiverse is already open, chillin and we don’t need to talk about the Multiverse at the time because nobody else, none of our other heroes were worried about it. We had a psycho robot trying to kill everybody, you know, a purple grape was on his way. Nobody was worried about a whole other universe existing except Doctor Strange because we were being introduced to the mystical and all the other dimensions and the Dark dimension trying to eat Earth and everything else.

Taylor: Who knows if a dimension is a universe?

Katie: We still don’t know that, we’re still in debate. So say we go off of that. Cool, Multiverse is open. Well, now we have moved into Infinity War, right. Again, no one’s worried about the Multiverse because we’re fighting a massive purple grape from space with rocks. He likes to collect rocks, okay, great, geologist. So now I’m sitting here and I’m thinking, what if this is when Loki Season Two starts to take place? No one’s paying attention to the Multiverse. We prune all the branches, we get everything all fixed, and next thing you know, when we start paying attention to the Multiverse, A.K.A all of Phase Four and Five, any properties that have dealt with it, it doesn’t matter because those branches or those universes are okay now because it’s post whatever happens in Episode Six Loki and they fix it.

Taylor: I see you and I hear you and I just don’t know how to process what you’re saying. I think it makes sense.

Katie: Until Marvel tells me anything else at this point, it’s what I’m running with.

Taylor: You know what we need to do? We need to get the book.

Katie: Yeah, but even then, like, nobody has been talking about it online, saying that the book is like it has definitively said any of this with Loki specifically.

Taylor: The book is out, right?

Katie: Yeah because didn’t they confirm Agents of SHIELD wasn’t canon or did I make that up in my head?

Taylor: I thought that was an excerpt.

Katie: Either way, when the book is out, yeah, we will be getting it. But I’m thinking that until I get real answers from anybody in Marvel who’s actually in Marvel, I’m running with this thought because again, 2016 Doctor Strange is like a thorn in my side at this moment, trying to understand and America’s mere existence is a thorn in my side at this point.

Taylor: Yeah I’m trying to think because what’s weird to me and we’re not at this point in our replay, but I think it’s important to bring it up because you brought up Doctor Strange and really the person who’s the expert at that point in time in the Multiverse is the Ancient One, right? She’s the one who opens his third eye to the Multiverse, she sends him through the Multiverse, and she’s pulling power from another dimension. Expert level over there, who also then is the person that the Hulk goes to for an explanation or who recognizes what’s happening during Endgame and gives us our first explanation of the Multiverse, the Ancient One. So the reason I’m bringing that up is it’s weird to me that she is talking about the Multiverse in Doctor Strange and she does not pass judgment on whether it’s good or bad, it just exists. Hi, you don’t know this, there are an infinite number of universes. She basically says it like a stated fact, but in a much more eloquent way than I just said it. When she talks to Bruce, she says very specifically, you must put them back where you got them, do not create a branch. As if the Multiverse was something to avoid and that’s super weird to me because it’s almost as if, if we’re going to go off your theory, I’m going to go out on a limb for you here, sister. If we’re going to go off your theory, it’s almost as if she didn’t know that the Multiverse already existed. She was showing him one single timeline, one, and then she said, don’t create a branch, that would be bad. In her previous appearance, she said, haha, Multiverse, no judgment with zero qualms.

Katie: Okay, I’m going to say something I’m going to be mad at myself for saying, but I’m going to regress all the way back to our thoughts in Loki Season One. Now I was talking I want to say maybe it was last week or two weeks ago about how I used to always and I still do have this running theory that when the Multiverse is in full effect, it’s just a bunch of universes pretty much stacked on top of each other parallel to one another. If I continue to run with that, what if she was saying don’t create a branch because this is something we said when we understood nothing about the Multiverse at all and it was a running theory and we weren’t necessarily proven wrong so I’m going to throw it back out there. What if the branch was more it wasn’t necessarily creating a new universe, but it could have been hitting another universe if it was allowed to go because she doesn’t know about the TVA clearly, even though the TVA is in full effect at this point and has been so maybe she’s more so saying that branch can sit there and slam into another universe. I don’t know the effects of that, but that doesn’t seem good and that’s an issue. I don’t know, just the thought process, because she is supposed to know so much about the Multiverse and she talked so much about it in the first film and then we get a very different thought process in Endgame. It’s just it’s again, though, it’s that thing of we keep going back and forth. We’re getting different answers all the time. We’re not really getting definitive answers on yes, no, maybe so we’re just living in this gray area constantly where we don’t really know what’s going on, and Loki’s blowing up a loom and sending everybody back to their own timelines and there’s branches everywhere. Yet we may never see that affect the MCU.

Taylor: Yeah, no, I think your interpretation of the Ancient One’s explanation of Bruce, I think that’s that’s very valid. But I think where I was going with it is your theory, if I’m recapping correctly, that we had a Multiverse because Loki Season One happened, right? So Loki Season One, then we have Doctor Strange and the Multiverse was able to exist because Loki and Sylvie did their thing well, really, Sylvie did her thing and you know, basically said Loki, get out of the way. So that happened, that’s why we’re able to have a Multiverse. The Ancient One knows all about it, but I’m almost feeling like maybe Endgame is after Loki has pruned everything already, right? Like if we’re saying after Loki Season Two, we have now gone back to a Sacred Timeline because they need all the time that they can get while branches are still forming but right now there’s really only one main universe while they’re doing their thing with the loom. And it’s at that time that Bruce is doing his thing and having his conversation with the Ancient One who, although you know what we didn’t think about?

Katie: That’s 2012 and not afterward. 

Taylor: Yup.

Katie: No, no, that, that makes sense. She’s in 2012. The Multiverse isn’t open because Loki is attacking New York currently. 

Taylor: Oh yeah. 

Katie: He wouldn’t have been branched off yet. It actually works with the theory.

Taylor: You’re right because at that time the TVA was still pruning, so there was only one timeline.

Katie: Yes and so they would have taken that Loki after the battle was over because he would have branched out taking the Tesseract because they were messing with time and doing the whole Endgame thing. Cool, shove them in one corner. We follow Loki and we watch Season One take place, he opens the Multiverse. Guess what comes later? The first Dr. Strange where she’s talking about the Multiverse. If I could drop this mic, I would.

Taylor: Yeah, please don’t.

Katie: I won’t but that works. That actually, like, instead of it being a problem, solidifies the possibility that this is how this works.

Taylor: I’m actually mad at us for not thinking about this earlier.

Katie: I don’t think about Endgame.

Taylor: Well, I know, but to our credit, that movie is so confusing in terms of like remembering what sequence scenes are happening in because if you have to remember in what sequence they are in order to remember where they are in time, like the actual concept of the movie, it’s like, okay, they’re going back in time to go get the stones. All right, got it, like, on a general level, yes. But then if you’re thinking about, you know, he’s talking to the Ancient One, you if you’re like us, your gut reaction is, that would be in 2023 when the actual current MCU was at that point but then you have to think about, no, that’s in the middle of the time heist, which means what group was Bruce in, where were they at the time? 2012, now that makes more sense.

Katie: They’re the group that literally caused this branched Loki.

Taylor: Yeah and it literally was Bruce.

Katie: Not that version, no, but yeah.

Taylor: No, but a version of him, you know, with the iconic stair line, like let it be because it is truly.

Katie: I agree. I wouldn’t want to do all those stairs either.

Taylor: I love that line. There are just so many things I could say about it, but I will try to focus.

Katie: We’ll save it for the replay whenever we actually get to Endgame and do three different episodes for it because it’s a three-hour movie.

Taylor: It is and there’s so much in there just so much to discuss. But I love this. I actually think that that’s really important and interesting. I like what you’re saying about where Loki takes place. I don’t remember why we were talking about it, but I think that it’s good that we did.

Katie: I don’t know. You brought it up because you said you were like, I’m going to bring up something you’re going to hate and then you brought it up and I was like, you’re right, I do. And I don’t really know where we got there. But I will say I have an interesting question, and it is at the end of the episode, Loki returns us back to where we were in Episode Four, as he and O.B. are looking down the stairs, which means Victor has not yet stepped out. Is Victor returning?

Taylor: So I have my thoughts and it’s weird because I’ve been starting to get on my For You page, I don’t have a ton of Marvel content on there, which is weird because you all have been following me for potentially a while and it’s weird that anything that I do doesn’t have Marvel content all over it, but for some reason my For You pages only the occasional bit of Marvel. But I did get this TikTok or maybe it was a Reel, I don’t know, recently where someone was talking about, you know, Victor Timely being the real villain and then I looked back at the date and I was like, this is like early on in the season before we knew that he was actually a good guy. But I’m thinking about it now and a few of the other videos that I’ve just come across on the Internet and theories and things, and it’s hard for me to understand like when these theories came out and what episode they were tied to but in my subconscious they’ve created a thought. And the thought is that this could be the way for Victor Timely to be He Who Remains. And I think maybe I saw that somewhere, I don’t know. If I did, I’m sorry, I don’t know who you are and I apologize. But this does open that door because remember, we talked about last episode that sense of relief, like I’m sad you’re dead Victor Timely but also I’m really glad that you didn’t live long enough to be the villain. Harvey Dent, we love it, we talked about it. Well, if he’s still alive, he could still have his Harvey Dent moment and we could end up seeing a bad version of him. We could end up seeing him become He Who Remains. And that whole evolution and, that could be the one ramification that we get from Episode Five, which is that him coming, Loki coming back around saves everybody, including Victor. And in saving Victor, we have now doomed him to his fate because remember, this is exactly what He Who Remains wanted. That’s why he sent Miss Minutes and he sent Ravonna to do what they did in the 1800s. Did he foresee necessarily Loki? Well, I don’t know. He said he foresaw Loki and Sylvie in Season One, so that is a definite possibility that he saw Loki interfering. He saw all of this happening. He saw the timeslipping, he saw everything that we’ve seen this season. He knew what was going to happen. He knew all he had to do was get that information to Victor Timely. He knew they were going to follow Ravonna. He knew that’s why Ravonna had to do it all of it. The other thing to think about is what is the failsafe? That was not explained, because as far as Loki’s aware or as far as Loki thought for the entirety of Episode Five, bye-bye TVA, it’s gone. But if I’ve learned anything, it’s that the TVA is in danger and I swear to God, Miss Minutes was on there too, didn’t she pop up for like a hot second on the screen when it said failsafe initiated? And if she’s involved in anything, one, I think that could have brought her back online. So that’s something to think about and two if there’s anything where she’s involved, there’s something weird going on. The TVA is still alive and that is a whole nother thing that may be running in parallel to whatever Loki is now doing as he goes back in time. I don’t think that that didn’t pay off. I think that we just haven’t seen that payoff yet and that ramification. It’s got to be important. It was in one of the previews of the episode and I can’t think that that wasn’t something that we’re going to see come back around to maybe bite us all in the booty. 

Katie: So I don’t really have much of a thought process there, more than I just have the idea of, you know, maybe, this would be my ideal situation. We always talk about the movies having like ABC plots, right? We’re always talking about, okay, we expect this to be one and especially ones that are like trilogies or if you’re Thor, more than a trilogy at a quadrology?

Taylor: I don’t know. I don’t know. 

Katie: I don’t know. I’m making that up maybe on the spot, I don’t know. But I’m thinking, you know, when we see each of those move a lot of the time there needs to be some sort of running storyline that might be buried right, but it at least keeps everything consistent between those movies. Same with The Avengers ones, like you need them to still have even if it’s a Z plot, let’s even just go there but it’s something that keeps them kind of running together, right? If we look at Loki, ideally I’d love to see all the ABC plots here, things that maybe we thought were gone over with, Miss Minutes, Renslayer, great examples, that all needs to culminate. I think that’s kind of where you were going with it, where it’s like there’s a lot of different things that were happening. I mean, we said within, I think the first three episodes that we didn’t know what was happening. We had no end goal other than fixing the loom. We just had gotten introduced to Victor Timely, and didn’t know what was going to happen with him, within the next episode he’s dead. There was just so much happening and it was great, but we didn’t know the direction and I think there’s a reason we needed to have all these different plots going on at the same time and now we’re obviously in like the be all end all we are at the end of this. We have one episode to solve it all. I’d ideally like to see it all come together in a very smart way, in the sense of like if you have ever watched any crime show and they are like, this is when they need to get the suspect right. And they’re like, we’re going to line everything up and they sit there and they’re like, here was this, this reference, you did this, actually, you were doing this and when this was going on, actually this was happening and when this happened, this is what went down. That’s what I want to see. I want to pretty much have everything connect in that final episode to culminate into the big point of why the loom was a big issue, why Miss Minutes and Renslayer went after, we know they went after Victor because of He Who Remains, but what’s the bigger plan? What was the end goal there? I want to see all of it. I want it all to culminate and just have that ah-ha moment where I’m like, this all suddenly makes sense. The puzzle, all the pieces fit and I get it. I see the big picture.

Taylor: We want the same things, but I think you’re more of an optimist than I am.

Katie: Oh I’m not saying we’re getting it, it’s what I want.  

Taylor: Okay, I agree with that. If I’m being a realist, I’ve seen one too many Marvel shows to think that’s going to happen.

Katie: I’ve seen Loki Season One, so yeah, I know.

Taylor: Yeah. So I mean, look, I don’t think Renslayer’s coming back. I think she’s done because she got pruned and though we know people can come back from pruning, that wouldn’t be new or exciting or different, right? We saw Mobius come back, we saw Loki come back like bleh, you know, and honestly, I feel like she’s kind of run her course. She murdered people.

Katie: She did do that.

Taylor: Yeah, well, I just mean she played the villain for however long she had to play the villain, right? She helped bring Victory Timely to the TVA. She got rid of Dock’s and her people like she played her part. I don’t know that we need her anymore, I think she’s done. Miss Minutes, she can come back and play. She knows a lot. She has a lot of power in the TVA and is probably the most I mean, going back to she knows a lot, she’s probably the most powerful, most knowledgeable person in the Multiverse. She makes the Ancient One look like, I don’t even know, like she can’t even read like Miss Minutes is out here, Ultron-level smart and the Ancient One can’t read. That’s the kind of knowledge that Miss. Minutes has in comparison to everyone else. That to me, she’s not done. She’s got a role to play and that’s why I think the failsafe is important, because I think that’s her way back. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of her. In terms of how that plays out next episode, I mean, look, I think we’ve hinted at Miss Minutes and I know people have been saying this online, too. I think we’ve seen Miss Minutes hinted at with a physical body one too many times to think it’s not going to happen. And I see your face and I feel the same way because I am terrified of the robots in the MCU but here we are, and I think she’s going to get a body and I just think going to be super interesting.

Katie: My brain, just like because the Five Nights at Freddy’s movie just came out. Like, all I’m thinking about are these animatronics that is kind of not haunted, but like just the concept behind that entire thing and I’m just thinking of Miss Minutes and I’m like, oh my God, if this girl gets a body, Ultron looks like he was a child.

Taylor: I know.

Katie: VisionUltron will look like he was ahh, I take that back cause he is terrifying. UltronVision, whatever you want to call him. He was terrifying. When he made eye contact with me, I said, go away, get out of here, we don’t like this.

Taylor: True but she still has more Multiversal knowledge than him, which might make her more of a threat. He had some, don’t get me wrong, we watched him annihilate the Multiverse until the heroes stopped him. I’m not saying he has no Multiversal knowledge, but in comparison to Miss Minutes, we don’t even know how old she really is. We don’t even know how long she’s been around. She has seen some things. She has been the very personal assistant to the most powerful man in the Multiverse who was able to control the Multiverse for eons. That woman, that thing, she is miles, leap years, light years ahead of UltronVision, in that sense, and that’s why she probably scares me more.

Katie: Yeah, I just think, I don’t know. I would like to see those two go in a ring. That would be a really interesting debate because I feel like intellectually they would both go at it, but also like physical damage that they could do, not even to each other, but just in general. I would I would pay for that. That would be a very interesting like What If? episode essentially. And I think then too like girl there’s your man go after your own type. We don’t need a body, in this case, you can just chill. He’ll be happy in the Wi-Fi, I don’t know.

Taylor: In the Wi-Fi. I don’t know that’s how it works. 

Katie: I think he lives on the internet or something.

Taylor: That’s not quite a why I don’t think. I don’t really know how that works.

Katie: Either way,  I mean, I do expect to see her. Renslayer, I don’t want a rule her out because to your point, people have come back from being pruned and you know the loom exploded. So is there an end of time anymore? I don’t know. You know, is there a wasteland?

Taylor: But it’s not going to explode, don’t forget.

Katie: But my point is, if we followed as things went through Episode Five, all of that exploded. I think if that had stayed that way, I think we probably wouldn’t see her again. However, if we’re going back and we’re not going to allow the loom to explode, because if we just allowed it to explode, then I really will sit here and be like, why was Episode Five even in existence? So theoretically we fix it, that’s the point. I would then say I’m not as against the thought of seeing her again, especially with Miss Minutes on her side.

Taylor: I think part of my reluctance to have her come back is that’s a duo that truly scares me. They do strike fear in my heart.

Katie: Yeah, Ravonna’s definitely, she’s unhinged. She wants control so badly she doesn’t she can’t see past her own motives. And so that definitely can be a very scary thing, especially when they were somebody in a position of power and who knew a lot and who also have been not just betrayed by the fact that they were believing this myth about these Timekeepers, but now, you know, finding out she was being betrayed the whole time from her maker, essentially, and the person who she helped create all this and she didn’t even know she did it because she was memory wiped. So there’s definitely like, what do they always say? Like a scorned woman is definitely like not to be messed with. That’s that’s what just happened here. And then Miss Minutes, she’s a different level of unhinged. She’s just scary, I don’t even have words for her.

Taylor: Yeah, and that’s why, I mean, like as a duo, there are very few things I think in Marvel that scare me more right now.

Katie: Yeah, that’s fair but I do expect at least Miss Minutes to make another appearance and maybe they find out they can’t do something without Miss Minutes.

Taylor: I’m telling you, man, that failsafe, she’s already back. She’s already back.

Katie: I would not be shocked.

Taylor: Yeah, well, I don’t know about you, but I think that’s it for Episode Five. I feel like we learned a lot, only to end up exactly where we were at the end of last episode.

Katie: Yeah, I mean, I think the only other big thing beyond what we learned theoretically was we learned a lot about Loki as a character and I think this is a really good character dive moment, and thank God we needed it. So I’m I’m okay with it in that sense and I think maybe that’s why my feelings aren’t quite as strong as I was I was just happy to finally see Loki care truly about all these people. This was the Loki who wanted to kill a bunch of people and make them his slaves and now he’s sitting here saving all of mankind in the entire Multiverse so that’s on character growth.

Taylor: True, yes. I think I’m also just salty because he was literally the only person who didn’t get to go back. The one person we wanted to go back so bad didn’t get to go.

Katie: Oh, yeah, I told you from the very start I was like, crap if he’s in the TVA and then you start seeing everybody else wasn’t. I was like, are you freaking kidding me? We had one chance here, one. That’s all I needed.

Taylor: We had one ask for you, Marvel.

Katie: And we were right there.

Taylor: Yeah, but I mean, realistically, let’s think about it. Were they going to pull in Hemsworth for a TV cameo other than the voiceover he did as Frog Thor last season? No.

Katie: Yeah, but here’s my thought process. Did you have to? Because he could have done a voiceover and just had somebody dressed like him from the back, which we’ve seen them do before. You never have to see his face. You just hear him talking. You can see Loki look at him and maybe Loki because actually facing his family is still pretty low on the list of things I expect Loki to be able to do, walks away like we don’t get it. It’s like a tease, but we don’t fully get it or quite frankly, just pull a clip from another movie and we just have like they did kind of in Endgame but obviously I know some of that was being acted like they were still acting new parts and stuff, but just kind of like sit there and have this character now in the back, you know what I mean? And just kind of be like, okay, this was a scene, now we have Loki in the back. He never needs to interact with him, but it’s just enough.

Taylor: I think that actually would have made me more angry because I don’t want them to just be in the same room. I want them to interact. I want Thor to have the closure of not having lost every single member of his family. I want Loki, who has now seen what his relationship could become with his brother, to be able to build that relationship. I wanted to see the first step and that’s why what you’re suggesting, while it would have maybe scratched the itch, it’s almost like when you scratch a mosquito bite and it actually makes it worse. That’s what I think that would have done for me. So I’d rather actually have had nothing than have that because I need an actual interaction. So that’s going to have to happen on the big screen because I am now mandating that I refuse to let anything happen that is not that because I’m annoyed.

Katie: That’s fair, I will say that. It’s all going to come down to how I think this season ends because depending on how the season ends, I could confidently say I think that they would actually do it. I think when you have the ability to have incursions and you have all sorts of crap going down, I think that and with Thor still on the table as a character, I really do think that we’re going to see it happen but it all comes down to how the season ends.

Taylor: Yeah, and I truly have thrown out some theories, but Episode Six is a black hole. It is going to be interesting. I’m excited for it. I’m a little less excited than I was going Four into Five because Four was a doozy and I really thought Five was going to really nail it. And obviously, you know, in my opinion, it didn’t but I am excited. I think hopefully Episode Six will lead us forward in terms of the greater MCU relationship to the Multiverse because it has to. We’ve talked a million times about how we are very sorely lacking in Multiversal, space, magic, and all those types of projects, with the exception of Agatha and Fantastic Four, up until Kang Dynasty.

Katie: And The Marvels.

Taylor: That’s true. 

Katie: Which Marvel dropped on us late.

Taylor: Yeah, they did. That one hurt.

Katie: That was an L on us and that was so annoying.

Taylor: Yeah. If you guys listened to our recent predictions episode, we recorded that before the most recent trailer where they talk about interdimensional beings and the threat being from not here.

Kate: And that there’s a universe hitting our universe pretty much.

Taylor: So that’s a little bit of a bummer, but that’s what happens when I need time to edit. So occupational hazard.

Katie: Well, honestly, though, the worst part was it’s like a ten-second clip. It wasn’t even a full-fledged new trailer. It wasn’t even like a deleted or not deleted scene, an excerpt, or anything. No, it was like a ten-second random clip. It was almost as if they weren’t supposed to have dropped it because it didn’t look like it was done. It was just, here’s 8 seconds of a clip, The Marvels, November like that was all that was and so it was very weird. And I was like, well, in an eight-second clip, you broke me because it’s too late. We’ve recorded our predictions thinking we understood what this movie was going to be about and now we don’t.

Taylor: Yeah, but anyway, back to what I say about Episode Six. We do have a few properties, but we really need Six to really take us far because that’s what we said about Loki at the beginning of the season. It needs to do a lot of legwork to get us where we need to go and I think it’s done quite a bit. I think Episode Five made us take a step back a little bit in where I thought we were going to go, but Six could help make up for it. So with that, I think we’re going to close on our Episode Five reactions. I’m cautiously optimistic for Six. I really hope that they can land this one. Please stick around for our coverage. Actually, Episode Six coverage is not going to be our next episode. We’re going to have our reactions to The Marvels, and I’ll let Katie go through some day changes and things for that they’re going to be a little wonky next week, but stick with us. Make sure you’re following on your podcast platform of choice, checking out the website for updates and blog posts and all that good stuff, and supporting the show if feel like that’s something you want to do, you can check out our homepage where we have the opportunity to do that through some affiliate links.

Katie: Give us a follow on Twitter at SisAssembledPod and Instagram and Threads at SistersAssembled. Make sure you’re keeping up because, as Taylor said, this week’s going to be pretty wonky. We going to have The Marvels reactions coming out on the Monday after opening weekend, so we’ll be seeing it on Thursday but if you’re seeing it Thursday, Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, it doesn’t matter. Our reactions episode will be Monday so right off that weekend, make sure you guys are giving that a listen. And then on Tuesday, we will have the Loki Season Finale Episode Six Reactions. So it’s going to be a fun two days, going to be a fun weekend. There’s a lot happening. If you’re a Thursday viewer of the movies and Loki, you’re going to be in the same boat as us. It’s going to be quite the night and then you got to go to work on Friday or school on Friday, and you might want to cry because I’m already thinking about crying so it’s going to be fun though. So get ready. We are so excited. And as always, make sure you’re keeping up with this content because Marvel just blew your mind, so let’s talk about it.