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Taylor: Hello. Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Let’s Talk Marvel fan Theories. Today we will be discussing Loki Episode three. Katie, take it away with our spoiler warning.

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Speaker 2

Okay, so as of course, any other episode, if you have not yet watched Loki episode three, please, please, please don’t listen to us right now. But do come back. But go watch the show and then come back. Listen to our thoughts afterwards. But once again, if you haven’t watched the episode yet, do not listen to this because we will be talking about things that happen in the episode. 

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Speaker 1

All right. Let’s talk about the thing I think that caught our attention right away that we were super excited about, which was the kind of techno music that came over the. Logo. 

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Speaker 1

And, you know, the the was the common, you know, Avengers intro that normally plays the theme song. Everybody Gets High Today was replaced with some pretty cool techno. I was really here for it. It felt very lowkey, very on brand. I enjoyed it very much. 

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Speaker 2

And I will say I think it at least happened in one of the other episodes that they had overdone the music with the different type, but it wasn’t the techno, it was kind of like it reminded me of I think it was Endgame or was it? It was Infinity War because I was before I knew everything hit the fan.

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Speaker 2

And I remember sitting there watching it going, Oh God, this. 

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Speaker 1

Is wasn’t it silent? 

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Speaker 2

It was either silent or it had very like lulling music that just Yeah. 

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Speaker 1

I think because I think Endgame was silent. One of like, I know one of them was silent. 

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Speaker 2

Yeah. One And you just knew it was going to be bad. And I know I feel like Loki had one of those. I don’t know if it was episode one or two, but the techno music I was here for as well, I was I was vibing. 

00:01:52:23 – 00:02:01:29

Speaker 1

I just felt like, What about it? Like there couldn’t be a better way to introduce me to a show about Loki than like some seriously good techno, Not. To mention and I know I said this to you immediately, I was like, This is Ragnarok vibes. 

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Speaker 3

Right here is like 100%. 

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Speaker 2

I felt Ragnarok in that moment and it just makes it so much better because that’s my favorite movie with Loki in it. 

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Speaker 1

I just feel like it’s like they brought Taker in as a music consultant for one episode and he was like, Okay, here’s what we’re doing. Oh, I did immediately had some space. 

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Speaker 2

I could only think about the Grandmaster and that and the scene of when they’re trying to escape and it’s his party ship or whatever. 

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Speaker 3

That is one of my favorite scenes in honestly cinematic history. 

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Speaker 2

And so good. 

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Speaker 3

I guess that’s, that’s all I could think of. 

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Speaker 1

He’s not even in the show. 

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Speaker 2

Well, he’s lying there eating in the background. 

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Speaker 3

That’s my favorite. That’s my party ship. And it’s just it’s perfect. 

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Speaker 2

So that was great. Now, did it match the episode? 

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Speaker 1

Not at all, no. I was ready for some shenanigans. We did not get the level of okay, except for the key singing scene, which we’ll get to later. Yes, but other than that, the shenanigans were at low levels, which I you know, I’ll get into how I felt about that later. Well, let’s get Into it right now. Let’s just talk about how do we feel about episode three. 

00:03:19:12 – 00:03:30:12

Speaker 1

I said this to you a few minutes ago. I feel like too they like hit a green light. There were like gas, gas, gas, gas. And then three, they were like, Oh, crap. Red cop, break, break, break. 

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Speaker 2

Great, great. And I, I know I am very blunt and I will say it how it is. I truly I was a little disappointed, but only because I did. I love the look, especially last time. And of course, yes, that was great. But I was so ready for this episode after the last episode. And don’t get me wrong, it was good. 

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Speaker 2

I just think maybe my expectations were higher for it than it came into being. 

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Speaker 1

It was a filler episode, let’s call it what it was like. I know anybody who happens to be a marvel Star Wars fan crossover person, you know that those happened in The Mandalorian all the time. Like those little Sidequest episodes. That’s what this felt like. Like, Oh, I don’t think they even really mentioned once the fact that they created a multiverse and the TVA was like one. 

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Speaker 2

I’m not freaking Out like that was not even I’m. 

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Speaker 2

Not sure they really like understand the degree of what happened there. But I do. I do. I mean, the show, not the characters of the show. 

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Speaker 1

Not really. Other than like. 

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Speaker 2

Oh, that this whole. Yeah, we do. 

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Speaker 1

Like we were in the time. 

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Speaker 2

It completely ignored what happened and yeah, so.

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Speaker 1

It was like again, like a Mandalorian style side of enter. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Mandalorian, but like they had a stop with that.

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Speaker 2

Was it was okay. They ended up on this planet that’s about to blow up. Granted, they ended up on the planet because while it was going to blow up like, Well, no, I mean, she had it preprogramed to go to those kind of places where she could hide away and then destruction. You would it.

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Speaker 1

Now, can we take a pause for a second? Why don’t you tell everybody what you found out? The interesting little tidbit about this particular moon? Oh, yes.

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Speaker 2

This planet. 

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Speaker 1

I mean, it’s a moon. It was, but wasn’t. It a moon crashing into them or was it a planet? 

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Speaker 1

It was a planet crashing into the moon. 

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Speaker 2

Oh, okay. Definitely. I look like I’m singing to them, but. 

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Speaker 1

Yes, I’m like 99% sure. They said they were on a moon. 

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Speaker 2

Ock moon slash planet. 

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Speaker 1

Either way, the little system.

 00:05:19:23 – 00:05:40:18

Speaker 2

The area they were on that was going to be destroyed. Destroyed? Yeah. Well, English. Well, I did that in front of my Boston. It was like, Oh my goodness, let me start again is actually on the edge of Cree territory, which is pretty interesting. If you want to bring into the possibility of the Cree and. We know who is the most famous semi Cree, Captain Marvel. So now we’ve got a little bit of tie in in different ways to some characters that seemed a little more unrelated to Loki, shall we say. 

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Speaker 2

But I will say I think it’s interesting they’re in the future pretty far. I said this about 50 years in the future, so I don’t know how she ages, but that would be kind of interesting because she is. 

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Speaker 1

Just one who’s, you know, pretty much made of cosmic energy age. I mean, she looks pretty great considering she looks the exact same she did in the nineties. 

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Speaker 2

Oh, that’s true. She definitely has to age like, Yeah. And Monica grew up so she definitely yeah. 

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Speaker 1

She went from a nine year old kid to like a 25 year old lady. 

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Speaker 2

Yeah. And if not even a little older. So it’s like only because I was a lot of the characters were like early thirties. Yeah. Seemed around in that area. So yeah, definitely. She doesn’t age normally, so who knows? 

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Speaker 1

Carol’s probably around there somewhere. 

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Speaker 2

Yeah, well, who knows? Because she’s got a massive universe to protect and, you know, didn’t understand. They know what was happening the first time. 

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Speaker 1

So bitterness is showing. 

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Speaker 2

Sorry I, I not going to bring up where we’re getting.

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Speaker 1

On a tangent. 

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Speaker 2

We’re not going to get to love not going to bring up Captain Marvel and I don’t but I am going to just preface it by saying I don’t want people to be all like, Oh, the issues with her because everyone’s like, Oh, you have issues because you’re being misogynistic. Not at all. I truly just wasn’t sold by the movie Promise. 

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Speaker 2

That’s really my true reason. It wasn’t sold. 

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Speaker 1

I didn’t enjoy it till my third watch. I’m not going to lie.

 00:07:10:06 – 00:07:26:22

Speaker 2

I just think she came in too late. And I think the movie, when it was in between two beautiful pieces of work, just didn’t didn’t bring the same joy. Because wasn’t Ant-Man and the WASP right then too? And and that kind of, like, not flopped, but didn’t do that. Great. It got lost. Yeah, because it was just. 

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Speaker 1

Yeah. And so I feel okay. 

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Speaker 2

Anyway, I’m moving on from that. Let’s discuss because this is kind of the elephant in the room. Lady Loki enchantress, who’s. This. Person? She. Sylvie She’s going by a lot names. Everyone’s calling her everything else. So I know we said last week we were with everyone else going, Oh, okay.

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Speaker 1

And there’s obvious thing because we didn’t think they were going to trick us again. Actually we did, but then we were like, Oh crap. 

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Speaker 2

Yeah. So I know I did mention in the blog, obviously she’s more the Enchantress. Once I did a little more, you know, even going on social media and which made sense. Now I’m going to say I knew that there were a couple of different characters she could have been. It’s just everyone was saying Lady Loki. So I. 

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Speaker 3

Was like, Well, if that’s what’s going on, okay.

 00:08:13:07 – 00:08:15:22

Speaker 1

My God, it’s what’s this face all over? Yeah, I. 

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Speaker 2

Know. Yeah I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. 

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Speaker 2

He, you know, the day that they actually do bring him in is going to be so funny because the entirety of the MCU fandom has been sitting here since the second or third episode of Wandavision. They’re like, Mephisto is here. That’s Mary’s. The Fly is Mephisto. 

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Speaker 1

We will break the Internet. That the day that Mephisto finally appears in the MCU. But so she is technically the Enchantress who goes by Sylvie. 

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Speaker 1

So also kind of she’s got a little bit of Lady Loki in her. So it’s, it’s like I would say my interpretation is like 70% and enchantress 30%. Lady Loki. 

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Speaker 2

Yeah, I would think they. Kind of combine the two characters a little bit, which wouldn’t be the first time they’ve done. 

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Speaker 2

This. But it would be a shame because this would be a great area to bring in. Lady Loki because of the variant. Lady Loki is super cool, so I will kind of hope that that’s not really going to be the outcome so that at least maybe there’s still an opening. He’s got a shocked look on your face. What is going on?

 00:09:17:14 – 00:09:38:25

Speaker 1

Okay, so I was doing a medium sized dive on Lady Loki earlier. Not sorry now Lady Loki Enchantress. And I was thinking or I was reading about how she’s in love with Thor and like, that’s like a whole thing. Well, now that we’ve introduced her and Thor has a movie coming out, all I’m saying is it opens up the door for that particular. 

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Speaker 2

Not to mention movie is quite literally called Thor: Love and Thunder.

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Speaker 1

Just saying we may have, I don’t know, broken something here. 

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Speaker 2

Well, actually, that was a great segue way into something I said right before we started recording. I said, Well, now that he’s not with the TVA, he, meaning Loki, is not technically with the TVA. Technically, that doesn’t mean that he couldn’t go back to either. His timeline or to any timeline at some point and be reunited with Thor. 

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Speaker 2

Now, I know Tom Hiddleston has said he is not in Thor, Love and Thunder. Okay. 

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Speaker 1

But Andrew Garfield also said he’s not in Spider-Man. Far from. Home. No way home, No way, No way. I wish they wouldn’t have done it because I can’t. I keep shouting, but know that’s a lot. So but I did also bring up the plan to have future seasons. So that doesn’t rule out the fact that he could have a cameo. I would love to see the brothers back together, but whatever. 

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Speaker 1

You brought up the TVA, let’s talk about.

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Speaker 2

Just the biggest. Reveal of this episode other than Loki’s sexuality. 

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Speaker 2

Which yay pride, moved. 

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Speaker 3

By Loki, is bisexual. 

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Speaker 1

Who in all his form. 

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Speaker 2

Running around in my pink, purple and blue right now. 

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Speaker 1

But other than that, the biggest reveal is that everyone who works for the TVA, including our dear Mobius and Mobius, which makes. Me feel so much better, don’t even like. 

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Speaker 1

Is a variant. 

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Speaker 2

It makes me feel better about him for working for that organization. So here’s my issue. Obviously they wipe their mind at some point because they’re mega evil. Yeah, because. Confirmed. 

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Speaker 2

Well, have I not been like, spewing the narrative that they’re sketch? I literally have been spewing this narrative. Everywhere in the press. 

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Speaker 2

I was like, Yeah, I don’t trust any kind of organization, especially in Marvel. 

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Speaker 1

So they gave us a SHIELD and then blew up SHIELD from the inside because Hydra literally grew within them for years. And no wonder the last time we were faced with the government in a marvel property when Sharon Carter was given her pardon and then, oh.

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Speaker 2

Screw her, but I’m not even going to get started.

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Speaker 1

But that works from the inside to sell weapons. So like corruption, basically every governmental organization, including the people who are trying the their name escapes me, the people who are trying to relocate all the refugees after the bullet. 

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Speaker 2

Oh, yeah, I know who.

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Speaker 1

Basically, if you’re a governmental or quasi governmental organizations. Some see you and your sketch. Your trash and your evil. Yeah, I’m glad that we came up with different words for that. 

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Speaker 1

There are a lot of synonyms we could use you for the mild ones. 

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Speaker 2

But okay, once again, I just want to point out I was correct and I don’t get to say that very often. Because. And you remember Wandavision that was so bad. 

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Speaker 1

That was it. 

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Speaker 2

So I don’t even want to. 

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Speaker 2

I just I need to revel in the fact that I was correct and I didn’t think it would be revealed so quickly. I really didn’t. But yeah, I think that we’re halfway through. Yeah, but it still feels like really quick to me. I don’t know why, but I saw it coming, but I didn’t think that was what was going to happen. 

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Speaker 2

But I wanted to. This is something I know I said to you as soon as we saw that scene happen, I said, okay. So that means because you had said, Oh, that means Mobius lied. And then I said, No. Mobius also didn’t.

 00:12:55:12 – 00:12:57:24

Speaker 1

Know. He straight up believes then that’s the worst. Part means and okay. And they have pieces of the old memory. That’s why he loves jet skis.

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Speaker 3

I it’s just because he thinks they’re the perfect combination of form and function. Yeah. 

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Speaker 1

That’s what that’s. 

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Speaker 2

A piece of his old memory that like, he probably can’t explain why he loves it as much as he like. He thinks it’s just because he like how great this man functions, but it’s probably because he. Honestly, I wonder if that’s part of how he became a variant. Something happened with. Yeah. Anyway, so obviously at some point they wiped parts of their memory because. It he literally thought he was made for this job. 

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Speaker 2

Well, I mean, that’s a way that’s almost like putting pieces into their head more than anything, them wiping it, that’s giving them false memories. 

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Speaker 1

Now, he just woke up one day I was working for the TV and again, everything more. But for before. I don’t know. I feel like it has to do like, I mean. 

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Speaker 1

Know, like if you think about it.

 00:13:59:21 – 00:14:00:20

Speaker 3

If I woke up one day but I was working, I would not have been like I was made for this. I just would have been like, Well, okay, I guess this is somewhat normal, but I would have been like, No, no, here’s how I’m viewing it. Well, someone told him the timekeepers made them all specifically. 

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Speaker 1

Here’s what he imagining. This goes right in my head. You’re wiped of all your memories. And then you go to TVA orientation, where they tell you that you. Took the good place. 

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Speaker 1

Yeah, right. That’s exactly what I’m imagining. Like a good place level orientation where they’re like, You’re dead. But actually they’re like, You’re alive and you were created for this job and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you just start the job and then you make your hundreds of years of memory. 

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Speaker 2

So I guess the new question is, would they have wiped Loki or was there a reason they were keeping him around as a variant? 

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Speaker 1

Here’s a question to your question, because your question, how are you. 

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Speaker 2

Going to raise my question brought. 

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Speaker 1

Something up to me. Okay. If if they’re variants. Yeah. How do they not know? How do they not see other variants get their minds white or did they just get a bunch of variants all at once and make them like TVA? People do what I’m saying Because. If I think Mary Harvey agent. And I saw someone get their memory wiped, I’d be like, Wait, did that happen to me? 

00:15:13:28 – 00:15:36:18

Speaker 2

No, there. There’s a key. This is my answer to this. And I’m I could be wrong. This is literally my answer to that. How I or how Katie herself will answer this. There is a key group of people like there is in any organization that knows everything. The judge is one of them. And I’m going to keep calling her the judge because, Hey, Ramona, Slayer, I’m still going to call her the judge.

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Speaker 2

I’ll call Judge R like Judge Judy. JJ I’ll call her our we were watching going. A bit of it. We were. 

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Speaker 3

Right before in front of.

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Speaker 1

Loki because that’s how we spend our evenings. We haven’t quite come out of our pandemic quarantine all the way yet. 

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Speaker 2

As you could doubt. 

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Speaker 1

We will do a baby deep dive on Ramona for a minute because she has some interesting ties as well. And to a character that is confirmed for Ant-Man and the WASP. Yes, But anyway, continue with your. 

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Speaker 2

But I mean, she’s definitely one of them. 

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Speaker 1

And the time keepers. 

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Speaker 2

Well, obviously the time here is because of the actual, like full villains of all this. But she is one of them for sure. And I’m sure she probably has a core group. I wonder almost all she wasn’t in this episode, but she’s the one that Loki was with in the second episode and. Then she’s hilarious. 

00:16:30:13 – 00:16:32:05

Speaker 3

She’s so funny, like her and Mobius and Loki is like, like really fun. 

00:16:35:28 – 00:16:40:01

Speaker 2

But I almost wonder, like, someone like her who is so, you know, I mean, just. Clearly believes in the. 

00:16:40:29 – 00:16:45:26

Speaker 2

Cause. Yeah, I and might not I’m not saying her specifically, but maybe someone similar to. Her in a similar. 

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Speaker 2

But there’s definitely core people in the TVA who know what’s actually going on and are probably the people responsible for all of that. Because think about what do they normally do with the variants. Supposedly they get rid of them, but I’m sure they take them to a room and they wipe them.

00:17:03:28 – 00:17:17:15

Speaker 1

Or I guess my question just is like if you’re one of the Minutemen who brought them in or the agent who brought them in, wouldn’t you be like, Hey, that new TVA agent looks a lot like that variant I brought in last week. Like, that’s where. Oh, I see what you mean. Like, I break down a. 

00:17:17:15 – 00:17:25:05

Speaker 2

Well, I wonder if they don’t just, like, start them off right away and they kind of because I mean, think about it like I wouldn’t remember someone even a month. 

00:17:25:05 – 00:17:34:03

Speaker 1

So maybe if they’re like, more in like, like a janitorial services or like an administrative type role where they’re maybe not as visible to some of the field agents. Is that what you’re saying? 

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Speaker 2

Or even just in general? They keep them away for like somewhere like keep them somewhere for. Yeah, like a little. 

00:17:39:27 – 00:17:42:13

Speaker 1

Getting like a variant a week or a couple of years. 

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Speaker 2

I’m sure you are. Are you really going to remember the face of every single. 

00:17:46:04 – 00:18:00:16

Speaker 2

Exactly. So I almost wonder, you know, if they do something like that, because, I mean, it’s either that or literally every time they bring a new variant in and they mess with their mind, they mess with everyone’s to not, or at least the people who saw them tonight.

 00:18:00:21 – 00:18:01:22

Speaker 1

Yeah, like you won’t recognize. Them mission. But that wouldn’t. 

00:18:04:11 – 00:18:07:13

Speaker 2

That doesn’t make sense because they know their missions. Yeah. 

00:18:07:20 – 00:18:20:28

Speaker 1

So speaking of the Time Keeper’s shoes, we also did a very deep dive on those guys. We were doing a lot of reading while we had a pause that we needed to take between watching the show and recording this. 

00:18:20:28 – 00:18:34:04

Speaker 2

So we’re less likely to need to add more to the blog where we have to clarify things that we said or we changed our mind. I’d rather add to something then have to fix it. 

00:18:34:14 – 00:18:55:16

Speaker 1

So I have this book called The Marvel Encyclopedia, and I was doing a little reading on the Time Keepers today on their entry, and it’s not a very long entry, but there were some really important words in there, like, for example, the fact that the time keepers, in order to keep themselves, I guess, in power or whatever, whatever their motive, wasn’t exactly. 

00:18:55:16 – 00:19:06:18

Speaker 1

Remember, they basically were like, we have to quash all of these alternate realities, right? So like the TVA, they want to stop these alternate realities before they begin. But I’m talking. 

00:19:07:04 – 00:19:09:11

Speaker 2

What they explained at the very, very.

 00:19:09:11 – 00:19:18:02

Speaker 1

Beginning. Right. But I read that entry as these alternate realities already exist and they’re trying to like I’m talking red lined, red lined. 

00:19:18:02 – 00:19:21:05

Speaker 2

So almost every you’re almost saying that everything we know. 

00:19:21:15 – 00:19:25:12

Speaker 1

This is I read about, you know, you mean those like negative five facts. 

00:19:25:12 – 00:19:35:16

Speaker 2

You know, this would be the most Marvel thing. Not that I say. Everything we know is not correct. Shocker. I’m so surprised. Once again, vision. 

00:19:36:10 – 00:19:46:12

Speaker 1

I’m saying like, say like we’re past where we are right now in the show, where we’ve got alternate realities like variant timelines that, oh, all this. 

00:19:46:12 – 00:19:50:23

Speaker 2

Okay, so like we’re maybe an episode of to further even at the season finale. 

00:19:50:25 – 00:20:15:00

Speaker 1

Yeah they’ve red line and we officially have a multiverse right that the Time keepers fought against the Avengers and I believe Kang the Conqueror, one of the versions of Kang the Conqueror was in there at least a Mortis and and or Kang. But we’re going to talk about that in a second. And they were trying to destroy all these alternate realities, basically, to keep themselves in power, I believe.

 00:20:15:00 – 00:20:23:16

Speaker 1

And they were fighting against nexus beings like the Scarlet Witch. Now, where if we heard. Of. Scarlet Witch and Nexus put together. 

00:20:27:10 – 00:20:29:04

Speaker 2

We also saw in Loki. 

00:20:29:10 – 00:20:30:10

Speaker 1

Yep. And her. 

00:20:30:10 – 00:20:31:08

Speaker 2

Show. Well, yeah. Commercial in her hex, also known as her little Nexus event. 

00:20:36:25 – 00:20:44:16

Speaker 2

Or also known as Westview as West view ends still exists inside of it. She lives rent free in my mind. 

00:20:45:05 – 00:20:52:04

Speaker 1

So that’s just a little little bit on those guys so they could end up being a major major antagonist. In a movie. I mean. 

00:20:53:25 – 00:21:05:21

Speaker 1

There was Quantum Mania in which Kang the Conqueror is a very close associate with our judge. Ah, Ramona ren Slayer. 

00:21:06:00 – 00:21:09:20

Speaker 2

Now you’re supposed to just say Judge Ah, you’re not that I’m Boy, you need to say. 

00:21:09:27 – 00:21:25:19

Speaker 1

I did cause and then how I refer to her. Ramona. Ramona. Judge Ah, sorry. Yeah. There we go. Judge R.R. and Kang the Conqueror are like a thing, and they’re very close in sometimes lines. They’re together and others are not. 

00:21:25:19 – 00:21:28:12

Speaker 2

Well, she seems very close with timekeepers too. 

00:21:28:12 – 00:21:29:15

Speaker 3

So, um. So all I’m saying is there’s a lot of Kang the Conqueror references here who is also confirmed for Ant-Man and the WASP Quantumania. So it seems like we’re moving in a very it when Ant-Man and the WASP set up the direction, along with potentially the multiverse of madness. Loki, This is a big freakin deal. 

00:21:49:14 – 00:21:52:28

Speaker 2

Okay, well, if you’re going to talk about women and the wasp. She did it in the wasp. 

00:21:55:25 – 00:21:57:13

Speaker 2

Quantumania I was like, It’s my. Understanding of this. 

00:21:58:07 – 00:22:00:26

Speaker 2

Well, just because wasn’t the second one Ant-Man and the WASP. That’s why they added Call them Quantum.

00:22:03:21 – 00:22:26:11

Speaker 2

Okay, That’s how. So where does the whole quantum realm fit into the multiverse? Off into the dodo. Since we had to have the discussion about where the time lines and then all of a sudden they were like the timelines and all of that. Anything that isn’t the sacred timeline has to be a multiverse. Okay, well then where’s the like the entire quantum realm. 

00:22:26:11 – 00:22:27:12

Speaker 1

Isn’t the quantum. 

00:22:28:02 – 00:22:36:07

Speaker 2

That’s how normal people time travel. But then hello, TVA. I mean, Marvel did just come out with a beautiful little statement and just say. 

00:22:36:07 – 00:22:38:14

Speaker 1

This is moving infographic. Yeah.

00:22:39:08 – 00:22:44:07

Speaker 2

Honestly, for a esthetic and all that, give me an infographic that’s. 

00:22:44:16 – 00:22:47:08

Speaker 1

On my wall so I can study it and still not understand it. 

00:22:47:08 – 00:22:52:20

Speaker 2

Yeah, I’d at least have and be like, This is what they’re thinking versus what? 

00:22:54:17 – 00:23:03:28

Speaker 1

Okay, I know at one point people talked about the quantum realm looking a whole heck of a lot like, Oh, that really big ugly purple faced. 

00:23:03:28 – 00:23:05:04

Speaker 3

I Dormammu. 

00:23:05:04 – 00:23:05:19

Speaker 1

Yes. Dormammu I’ve come to bargain dark realm. So I, I was like this to you. 

00:23:13:01 – 00:23:17:04

Speaker 1

I’ve also read in other places like I’m the only person I talk about Marvel. 

00:23:17:04 – 00:23:25:14

Speaker 2

To, obviously. But I think I’ve brought this up to where I’ve at least been one of the people who have sent you an article about it, because I really I feel like I remember this. 

00:23:25:19 – 00:23:27:04

Speaker 1

Either way there. 

00:23:27:04 – 00:23:30:08

Speaker 2

Maybe I’m not the only person who talked my thought to. 

00:23:30:20 – 00:23:35:21

Speaker 1

Why does that surprise that’s so offensive? Am I the only person you talk about? 

00:23:35:21 – 00:23:44:11

Speaker 3

Marvel Yeah, pretty much. Sure. To be fair friends. To be fair. None of my friends. I mean, I have like, maybe one of my friends just watched all the movies for the first time. 

00:23:51:09 – 00:23:52:02

Speaker 1

Oh, my God. 

00:23:52:03 – 00:24:07:16

Speaker 2

But she’s not hardcore into it. She’s just like, Well, now I’ve seen them and I’m like, Great, My God, the only person is my roommate who I haven’t seen. I mean, like, I obviously just saw her, but prior to that, I hadn’t seen her in a year because of COVID. So kind of been down on it. 

00:24:07:27 – 00:24:13:20

Speaker 3

Steve Jobs what where does this come from? 

00:24:14:11 – 00:24:18:19

Speaker 1

Just follow me here. He created this thing called the iPhone wasted. Called faceTime. He’s been very careful with COVID and all that. So she also, like when things were going on, wasn’t really paying attention to social media stuff because she just wasn’t worried about it. She was worried about COVID. 

00:24:33:21 – 00:24:37:27

Speaker 1

This isn’t social media. This is watching television. That’s all we all did for the past five. 

00:24:37:29 – 00:24:44:03

Speaker 2

Listen up. We did. But she got into arts and crafts. 

00:24:44:03 – 00:24:47:15

Speaker 1

Well, good for her. You can do that while watching TV. And yeah, no, I love it. 

00:24:47:15 – 00:24:55:06

Speaker 2

It’s completely understand all my friends have failed me. But my my point just being I’m a little offended. 

00:24:55:18 – 00:25:03:25

Speaker 1

Anyway, back to Dormammu in the quantum realm, it’s entirely possible the quantum realm has a space related. 

00:25:05:05 – 00:25:09:27

Speaker 2

Go to it. So it’s space like it’s own thing.

00:25:09:27 – 00:25:13:03

Speaker 1

I’m not space and time are like together. They’re like. Good friends. 

00:25:15:20 – 00:25:16:26

Speaker 3

Are they friends to work? 

00:25:18:26 – 00:25:25:14

Speaker 2

Clearly, I I’m literally already confused. I don’t just don’t talk to me about the next like fire. 

00:25:25:16 – 00:25:26:10

Speaker 3

The one you brought up. 

00:25:26:10 – 00:25:28:23

Speaker 1

The the way the quantum realm ties into Well.

00:25:28:23 – 00:25:31:29

Speaker 2

You brought up every on the wasp and the quantum realm. So I was like, this. Is did the Question I should hurt my brain. 

00:25:36:15 – 00:25:37:22

Speaker 2

I mean, it felt like my question. Was a really good segue. 

00:25:39:13 – 00:25:42:13

Speaker 1

It was I just don’t know how to answer that. That really frustrates me. 

00:25:42:24 – 00:25:51:18

Speaker 2

I know I do. Besides that fact, back to the whole TVA, obviously Loki is not going to work for them now that he knows. 

00:25:51:18 – 00:25:52:08

Speaker 1

You’re saying. The issues with them. Once again, I bring back the fact that means that he will, especially. 

00:25:58:20 – 00:26:00:02

Speaker 1

With the multiverse. Yes. 

00:26:00:26 – 00:26:01:27

Speaker 3

Even Mobius. 

00:26:02:17 – 00:26:13:13

Speaker 2

But especially with the fact that a bunch of multiverses are being made and one of them is on Asgard. Whether or not we see them running around into the different multiverses. 

00:26:14:02 – 00:26:18:03

Speaker 1

Did we discuss last time about all of the different places with them? 

00:26:18:03 – 00:26:31:11

Speaker 2

I we didn’t, but I talked about it in the blogs. Check out the blog, guys, because we did talk about some of the key places, but we will bring it up right now, considering one of them is Asgard, the most important one. One of them is warm here. 

00:26:31:11 – 00:26:34:04

Speaker 1

Okay, Natasha’s back. 

00:26:35:04 – 00:26:41:17

Speaker 2

You said that really, really Like you believed it. And I just can’t bring myself to do that yet. 

00:26:41:18 – 00:26:50:09

Speaker 1

I have heard rumors, and we’re going to get a little better here. I’ve heard rumors. She’s on tap for another couple movies and or some other appearances, though. 

00:26:50:23 – 00:27:00:03

Speaker 2

So because you know what I’ve been hearing for months, like Chris is in and out of stuff that I don’t like, haven’t Chris Evans for the fact that there are like 7000 also known as Steven Rogers, Captain. America, Happy birthday, by the way. A little belated just turned 40. Anyway. His dad turned 40. 

00:27:10:20 – 00:27:19:12

Speaker 2

But I hope that scene we see in the trailer is hard. Now, you brought up a good point. They’ve doctored trailers before. 

00:27:19:23 – 00:27:45:24

Speaker 1

Yeah. So I guess to take that back a couple of steps because we just had a conversation about this that we didn’t give you guys any content. So we just continue that conversation and we were talking about specifically the scene, this episode where they’re on that to be soon destroyed. MM one Thank you. And they’re sitting on a rock and they kind of have a little heart to heart after she like scream exploded. 

00:27:45:24 – 00:27:48:07

Speaker 1

What’s like We’ve all been there, honey. Like, no. 

00:27:48:07 – 00:27:52:27

Speaker 2

I really, like, not like I understood it, but it just, it did. I mean. 

00:27:52:27 – 00:27:53:09

Speaker 1

I don’t know. 

00:27:53:16 – 00:27:55:23

Speaker 2

Greenspan’s Yeah is like the head match. 

00:27:55:24 – 00:27:57:01

Speaker 3

I was like, God, what are you doing? 

00:27:57:05 – 00:28:11:01

Speaker 1

I do understand the screaming into the air vibe. We’ve all been there. But anyway, so she has her little screaming moment. And then Loki, they kind of have this cute little wit. 

00:28:11:02 – 00:28:15:28

Speaker 2

I just want to ask this question. I’m sorry. I told you I totally know you’re on a roll. 

00:28:15:28 – 00:28:16:22

Speaker 1

I am really on. 

00:28:16:22 – 00:28:25:07

Speaker 2

But so they’re both variants, obviously. But to some degree, are they related or pause? 

00:28:25:13 – 00:28:30:09

Speaker 1

Does we have to talk about my confusion related to her entire existence in a bit? 

00:28:30:09 – 00:28:30:29

Speaker 2

Okay, great. 

00:28:31:06 – 00:28:42:05

Speaker 1

So we’re going to table that for a moment so I can talk about my trailer doctoring theory. So anyway, so they’re on this this rock, and it seemed like the perfect set up for that. Oh, I said it. 

00:28:42:05 – 00:28:43:23

Speaker 2

I said, Oh, God, tell me. 

00:28:43:23 – 00:28:55:27

Speaker 1

This is the scene. It’s not going to in the trailers where he’s sitting on the rock next to a lady who has hair about Sylvie’s length. But it seems very red. Very red. But that’s. 

00:28:55:27 – 00:28:58:04

Speaker 2

Awfully nice. Hair length. Wait. Stop. 

00:29:00:22 – 00:29:05:27

Speaker 1

Are you on a roll? It is also in a very colored little planet. Why are you. Laughing so hard and going to keep going anyway? I was just trying to think of the funny cause. So anyway. 

00:29:17:14 – 00:29:21:29

Speaker 1

So it seemed like a really good setup for that scene. And then it didn’t happen. And so. 

00:29:25:16 – 00:29:53:18

Speaker 3

So I don’t even know why you guys keep going. You keep going there. On the ride over here, there is a purple colored planetoid. Am I ever going to get to make this point or are you yelling at me? It’s really smart, guys. I’m fine. And do you like planetoid That guy Bueller. 

00:29:53:18 – 00:29:54:04

Speaker 2

Makes you laugh. 

00:29:56:13 – 00:30:04:04

Speaker 1

It seems like a long story short, I’m going to give it to you in 10 seconds. Seems if it’s set up for what? That scene was in the trailer. But I’m now thinking that maybe. That scene doesn’t exist. And it is a fake scene. Infinity War. Now I’m going to take a break and laugh for a while. 

00:30:14:25 – 00:30:21:29

Speaker 3

You actually like my abs? I don’t even know why I’m laughing. I think it’s just you trying so hard to tell this. 

00:30:21:29 – 00:30:23:25

Speaker 1

I’m just trying to keep us on the rails here. 

00:30:23:25 – 00:30:28:21

Speaker 3

I just. I think that’s what it is. And it just has to be died anyway. 

00:30:28:28 – 00:30:29:28

Speaker 2

I don’t know what you said. 

00:30:31:02 – 00:30:32:19

Speaker 3

In listening it, but basically. A rehashing of our conversation about the fake. 

00:30:34:14 – 00:30:56:13

Speaker 2

Book. Right. I do hope everyone else knew what she was saying because I was completely different mental state at that moment. I still am going to hold out hope. But the thing I was going to interrupt you with initially was if it is okay, if one of the variant pieces is going to avoid man and we’re like, Oh, okay. 

00:30:56:13 – 00:30:59:17

Speaker 2

And then we have a scene in the trailer theoretically saying it is another scene. 

00:30:59:17 – 00:31:00:05

Speaker 1

Laura still. 

00:31:00:06 – 00:31:25:27

Speaker 2

Alive. We’re not even going to try that. This is more of up to what we know and that’s hair is short and curly, similar, similar to Avengers one, not her hair. I look at it, we’ve all talked. It doesn’t look like how she looked like when she was in Boorman doesn’t look like Infinity War. Doesn’t look like Winter Soldier or Iron Man era. 

00:31:25:27 – 00:31:41:06

Speaker 2

It’s either Age of Ultron or Avengers. So which is interesting because Loki is also right out of 2012. So what if somehow time got messed up there? That could be one of the variants because one of the other variants. 

00:31:45:13 – 00:31:57:28

Speaker 3

Are you really? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you’re doing it to me. You had me so out, I just wanted so badly. It was like two words. But whatever the little. Variant blob thing is, I don’t even know what they are. But one of the little pine thingies is also going to New York. 

00:32:04:02 – 00:32:04:17

Speaker 1

To say. 

00:32:04:17 – 00:32:07:14

Speaker 2

That one of them is New York. Yeah. 

00:32:08:02 – 00:32:15:25

Speaker 1

Also, just a quick little thing. You did not discuss this, but Hala a.k.a the Kree Homeworld is also one of the very I. 

00:32:15:25 – 00:32:29:03

Speaker 2

Did forget to mention that I mentioned some of the ones that people would recognize right away. Obviously, Asgard was self-explanatory, but I mentioned like ego, for example, Titan. Sometimes this seemed very life. 

00:32:29:05 – 00:32:30:26

Speaker 1

If ego even exists. 

00:32:32:04 – 00:32:32:23

Speaker 2

Oh. 

00:32:33:16 – 00:32:38:26

Speaker 1

Unless they’re talking about a variant that happens at a point in time in which the planet was still. 

00:32:38:26 – 00:33:02:27

Speaker 2

Oh, don’t even look, I’m just trying to explain that. But yeah, so one of the variants does go to New York. So I almost wonder if that’s not that scene where like the world of blowing up. Oh wait, it’s not. It’s no Star Towers in the background. So yeah, it has to be New York. I was gonna say what if you there on that the moon planet they’re on right now but because that blows up but they’re on. 

00:33:03:27 – 00:33:06:07

Speaker 1

I also didn’t see any water it wasn’t their water but. 

00:33:06:07 – 00:33:18:18

Speaker 2

It’s also I don’t think so but star powers in the back. Yeah No at the time. Yeah. Wait is it Star Tower or Avengers Tower? Because that’s also probably important to understand. I don’t even. 

00:33:18:27 – 00:33:23:01

Speaker 1

Well, it could be either one in 2012 because Stark Tower. Was on the right and it wasn’t yet Avengers. Okay, so if it’s just the. A it could be just. Post. Bottle of New York or if it has the full name it could be. 

00:33:34:16 – 00:33:39:11

Speaker 2

No, it’s not that you can make out what it is. I just haven’t watched the trailer since the show came on. 

00:33:39:27 – 00:33:40:07

Speaker 1

Same. 

00:33:40:16 – 00:33:44:19

Speaker 2

So I do remember being enough that you could read what the word was, but I couldn’t. 

00:33:44:19 – 00:33:48:11

Speaker 1

Okay, then it’s probably either pre or during Battle of New York. 

00:33:48:11 – 00:34:09:10

Speaker 2

Okay. But yeah. So I’m not gonna write off the fact that there’s a possibility of her, especially with that hair now that I think about it, just because there could be a variant where she ended up some for somebody. I mean, the space stone takes you anywhere. That’s how Red Skull ended up that. Yeah, you’re right. You know, I know I’m right with that.

00:34:10:11 – 00:34:28:26

Speaker 2

Keep that in mind. That’s how Red Skull ended up on Boromir. So maybe there’s a variant where she instead picks up the Tesseract or something, and for some reason it takes her or something or, you know, I don’t know how that whole thing works. If all you have to do is like, think of a place. But she wouldn’t know Vermeer. 

00:34:29:13 – 00:34:30:01

Speaker 2

But I’m thinking. That Red Skull. Okay, so you just kind. 

00:34:31:16 – 00:34:32:12

Speaker 2

Of went right? 

00:34:32:12 – 00:34:38:25

Speaker 1

Like the first Avenger. He just kind of picks it up and is like, Oh my God. And then all of a sudden he’s like, on Vermeer. So. 

00:34:38:29 – 00:34:47:06

Speaker 2

So maybe that. Yeah, because it has to happen. And the only reason I point that out again is because this Loki is out of 2012. You should be in. 

00:34:47:07 – 00:34:47:24

Speaker 1

So if. 

00:34:48:05 – 00:34:50:19

Speaker 2

If she is going to be from New York. 

00:34:51:01 – 00:34:56:21

Speaker 1

Gomorrah, real Gomorrah 2018 Gomorrah is on Vermeer. 

00:34:57:04 – 00:34:59:16

Speaker 2

Depending on one more on one year though. 

00:34:59:28 – 00:35:07:21

Speaker 1

Because the variant could be from at any point on Vermeer. So it’s either not or it’s Gomorrah. So then there’s going to be to the markets. 

00:35:08:01 – 00:35:08:29

Speaker 2

Okay, so your. 

00:35:08:29 – 00:35:09:29

Speaker 1

2014. 

00:35:10:14 – 00:35:19:24

Speaker 2

Your best idea is not to even try to bring Gomorrah into this right now. And we have absolutely no clue what we’re going to see, even if this is not you know, I mean, this is just a thought process. 

00:35:20:14 – 00:35:22:01

Speaker 1

Taking I think further. 

00:35:22:01 – 00:35:43:07

Speaker 2

I think our our best bet would be like, say this becomes confirmed, say next episode, then maybe it’s time to be okay. Where Michael morph into this thing is, is I don’t want to theorize on top of a theory on top of another theory, it just is going to get into a deep, dark hole very quickly and bring us right back to it. 

00:35:43:10 – 00:35:46:20

Speaker 2

So I’d really and I want to avoid that because I’m so tired. 

00:35:47:16 – 00:35:57:10

Speaker 1

Okay, So if we’re going to stop going down that little rabbit hole, let’s talk a little bit about Lady Loki. I’m sorry, Sylvie. Whatever you want. 

00:35:57:10 – 00:36:00:20

Speaker 2

To call her. Sylvie. I feel like that’s her beloved. That’s what she wants to be called. 

00:36:00:27 – 00:36:12:02

Speaker 1

So we talked about whether or not she and Loki or later you brought that up. My real question is that she has a whole lifetime’s worth of memories. 

00:36:12:02 – 00:36:12:14

Speaker 2

Yeah. 

00:36:12:22 – 00:36:20:00

Speaker 1

So at what point does she deviate from our Loki like birth? 

00:36:20:23 – 00:36:38:23

Speaker 2

Well, it’s interesting because I believe. Okay, it’s kind of difficult if we go off of the Sylvie storyline. She, I believe, is created by Loki. But that’s a whole different it has to do with when Asgard is all of a sudden over Oklahoma. Well, weird Sylvie.

 00:36:38:25 – 00:36:42:12

Speaker 1

Sylvie is a real life. She was created by Loki. She was. 

00:36:42:19 – 00:36:52:26

Speaker 2

She was, Yeah. Yeah, that’s What I meant. I meant like, that’s what I was. I kind of like, skip that step in my head and explaining it, but it was there. Yeah. She’s a real person. Given powers. 

00:36:52:29 – 00:36:58:23

Speaker 1

From Oklahoma, which makes sense because Asgard was, you know, over taking up residence over their. 

00:36:58:23 – 00:37:03:09

Speaker 2

Skies and all their citizens were being reborn on earth anyway. 

00:37:03:20 – 00:37:04:18

Speaker 3

That whole. 

00:37:04:18 – 00:37:08:27

Speaker 2

Thing. Yeah. So, you know, I almost wonder if that’s a. Possibility. Because. 

00:37:11:18 – 00:37:13:09

Speaker 1

But we haven’t seen Asgard reborn like. 

00:37:13:19 – 00:37:33:09

Speaker 2

To me, no, but a variant. We don’t need to see Asgard reborn to be like, maybe Loki had some weird stint in Oklahoma. To be fair, he she has been running around time, so we don’t know how old she really is. And Loki doesn’t age normally either. He’s a god. It could have been like a long time. 

00:37:33:09 – 00:37:36:03

Speaker 1

Remember it if he created this person though. 

00:37:36:06 – 00:37:41:08

Speaker 2

Yeah, but she would have been little. And like I said, but he think he thought. She was him. 

00:37:43:05 – 00:37:54:23

Speaker 2

So that’s. But that’s Loki being told that thing about that. That’s the whole thing. He probably would never have thought that had the TVA up in like the variance, you know. 

00:37:55:16 – 00:37:57:03

Speaker 3

You know like if I. Was being told. 

00:37:58:08 – 00:38:12:26

Speaker 1

It, I just don’t think they’re going to deep cut it that far I think she is a variant of him. I’m just like, not really sure how that works. Like because she would have she like clearly like I said, had a whole life. She has a mother she doesn’t remember. She is this she is that. 

00:38:12:26 – 00:38:16:19

Speaker 2

Like she was adopted. Yeah, like but she knew she’s a frost giant. 

00:38:17:10 – 00:38:22:27

Speaker 1

Yeah. So like, how was she allowed to grow up to an adult. 

00:38:22:27 – 00:38:28:09

Speaker 2

Well, they said she’s been on the run from the TVA since she was little, so she clearly from the get go, just. 

00:38:28:09 – 00:38:30:10

Speaker 1

So is that how her mother was killed? 

00:38:31:03 – 00:38:33:23

Speaker 2

I don’t know. I didn’t watch her mother killed. 

00:38:34:07 – 00:38:39:00

Speaker 1

She said she only has memories of her mother like flashes of memory. 

00:38:39:04 – 00:38:43:07

Speaker 2

I just kind of assumed her mother gave her up. I didn’t think much of that. I just kind of. Well. 

00:38:44:03 – 00:38:49:22

Speaker 1

I was assuming she met her adoptive mother because Loki was talking about Frigga. 

00:38:50:22 – 00:39:04:00

Speaker 2

I guess I didn’t really think about it that way. I just. I know Loki was adopted, but, like, I hope this makes sense. This is my thought process. With that I 100% see Frigga Loki’s mom, but do not see Odin as I see Odin that says like adopting. 

00:39:04:25 – 00:39:06:13

Speaker 3

Like, you know, I mean we. 

00:39:06:14 – 00:39:08:24

Speaker 1

I it, I think that makes sense because we don’t. Ever see Loki’s real. 

00:39:10:21 – 00:39:15:10

Speaker 1

Mom. Yeah. We don’t ever see her birth mother but we see Luffy and we know. 

00:39:15:10 – 00:39:18:26

Speaker 2

Well and he has such a connection to figure that it’s Yeah yeah. 

00:39:19:00 – 00:39:28:24

Speaker 1

Like I mean like yeah he’s sad when Odin dies but he doesn’t go Callistus the way he does. Which part of that might be because you know, he’s responsible for frigga stuff. 

00:39:28:25 – 00:39:44:12

Speaker 2

But I also think had well, he didn’t fully know that at the time he found that out more so now that he was going like in the future, going to. But he didn’t super realize, like at the time that he led them right there. Him. 

00:39:44:20 – 00:39:57:02

Speaker 1

I mean, I think he had to put two and two together that he led them up the stairs into the residents of the castle. And all of a sudden now his mom’s dead in her bedroom like that. Just a tough leap to make.

00:39:57:04 – 00:40:08:13

Speaker 2

Regardless, I think it’s interesting that she does have such a back story and she does know that she’s a frost giant. So did she ever end up at her planet there from? 

00:40:08:22 – 00:40:13:08

Speaker 1

Oh, Joachim. Yeah, I just rewatched the first floor movie, so I’ve got all the. 

00:40:13:08 – 00:40:39:00

Speaker 2

No, I, I couldn’t remember it and I would have come to me eventually, but So does she eventually travel there like she Once again, this comes back to the initial thought I had after episode one, before we knew about Sylvie and all that, who she was. She obviously has had a run in with the TVA before. She had to have now had it when she was little because they would have come after her somewhere.

00:40:39:00 – 00:40:46:26

Speaker 2

She became a variant. She would have been a prime example of someone that they could make into a TV agent. 

00:40:47:00 – 00:40:48:21

Speaker 1

She’s a small, impressionable child. 

00:40:48:21 – 00:40:59:24

Speaker 2

Right? So somewhere in that time that she’s in the TVA because she obviously had been that that’s how she knows of technology. That has to be how because. 

00:41:00:10 – 00:41:05:09

Speaker 1

She’s been hunted by them for so long like you get to know your enemy, right. 

00:41:05:10 – 00:41:11:17

Speaker 2

Yeah. I just think imagine the fact that she essentially grew up in the TVA. 

00:41:11:28 – 00:41:21:04

Speaker 1

But also you’re not you’re not remembering that she can play with your memories. So she could have literally, you know, by osmosis, she taught herself. 

00:41:21:12 – 00:41:23:00

Speaker 2

Right? Well. 

00:41:23:25 – 00:41:30:07

Speaker 1

I’m sure along the way. Well, right. And then all she had to do was touch somebody once she figured it out. That’s I think she practiced. 

00:41:30:13 – 00:41:52:08

Speaker 2

On the wall on the same plane, though. That’s point where you are when know you really kind of started bringing it out that I was like you were trying to, like, refute me. You know, we’re on the same plane. My point being, I almost wonder if because she was a variant, but she’s obviously kid, they weren’t going to sit there and kill her, but they probably couldn’t quite make her a TV agent or anything of that sort. 

00:41:52:08 – 00:41:57:23

Speaker 2

Yet she’s a child. They can’t send a child out into the field in any way, shape or form. 

00:41:58:07 – 00:41:59:26

Speaker 1

So be the first time. 

00:41:59:27 – 00:42:19:16

Speaker 2

Oh, but I truly do wonder if she, to an extent grew up in the TVA and that’s when and she was able to start figuring it out. She had power, I don’t know, because she doesn’t say she knew she had powers right away. She just was like I taught myself. So I don’t know, maybe if she went and I don’t know, did research. 

00:42:19:18 – 00:42:27:18

Speaker 2

She’s in the TVA. She has all sorts of of knowledge at her expense because she played she called. 

00:42:27:21 – 00:42:35:14

Speaker 1

Loki a variant at one point. Well, she feels like she’s the true Sylvie, but you know what?

00:42:35:14 – 00:42:36:12

Speaker 2

Because she probably. Grew up and it. Didn’t feel like she was a variant because she was so young. 

00:42:41:01 – 00:42:56:09

Speaker 1

I wonder then is her grand scheme to get the timekeepers I think we talked about this last episode, to get the timekeepers to make her the primary. Loki Sylvie, whatever you want to, however you want to say it, like the primary owner of that. I think she. 

00:42:56:09 – 00:43:01:24

Speaker 2

Has her own story though. You know, I’m but I’m not really her story. 

00:43:01:27 – 00:43:05:14

Speaker 1

The sacred timeline and making our Loki’s story zero. 

00:43:05:16 – 00:43:10:29

Speaker 2

Sure she is our Loki because she doesn’t want to be called it. 

00:43:11:05 – 00:43:17:04

Speaker 1

No, I’m saying I’m saying she’s considered a very because our Loki is the sacred timeline. Right. 

00:43:17:07 – 00:43:21:04

Speaker 2

But that’s with you saying that they’re one of the same. 

00:43:21:26 – 00:43:35:10

Speaker 1

But but that’s how the TVA views them. They are two sides of the same coin. They are the same. There are two people occupying one spot on the sacred timeline. Right. But I’m saying what she wants to say. But they she’s a variant. 

00:43:35:15 – 00:43:37:07

Speaker 2

So is he my point? 

00:43:37:07 – 00:43:59:25

Speaker 1

Hawking No, no, no. I’m not talking about Loki in the show. I’m talking our Loki period in the movies, the sacred timeline. Loki Yeah, right. Okay, so there are there’s Loki who is viewed by the TVA and the timekeepers as the the right way, right, whatever you want to call it. Part of the sacred timeline should be everything that happens to him should be She is other. 

00:43:59:25 – 00:44:13:20

Speaker 1

She is not she is not supposed to be. So I’m wondering if her end goal is to replace Loki in his history with her history, making her fill that identity on the sacred time. 

00:44:13:20 – 00:44:16:13

Speaker 2

Two things. One, I definitely said this last week. 

00:44:16:19 – 00:44:21:14

Speaker 1

At what I thought. I said, well, I said, Did we say hello? But to. That’s still saying that. They’re the same person. You’re not little. No, but, but I’m saying I get your point. But She that’s saying that she’s a variant of Loki. What if she is not. She might not be. She might be There might be a Sylvie out there that is hers. She might not be Loki. They just thought she was. 

00:44:46:26 – 00:44:53:02

Speaker 1

But the only reason they would have come after her is because she started a variant timeline. If she was a person who was. 

00:44:53:15 – 00:45:03:09

Speaker 2

What if. But this goes back to say she grew up in the TVA or at least spent quite a bit time in TVA. She was clearly a child when she became a variant. 

00:45:03:09 – 00:45:05:28

Speaker 1

So she you just as she’s a variant, like I didn’t. 

00:45:05:28 – 00:45:15:28

Speaker 2

Say she wasn’t a variant. That’s not my point. You’re my point is I don’t she might not be a variant of Loki. You’re saying she’s a variant of Loki. I’m saying she might be. 

00:45:15:28 – 00:45:31:06

Speaker 1

A she has said she remembers being a frost giant. She knows she’s adopted. The parallels are too similar for her not to be a variant of Loki. Who else in the universe is like, Yeah, I was born a first child, but then we asgardians adopted me. 

00:45:31:11 – 00:45:34:29

Speaker 2

Didn’t you say she’s also the second enchantress? Which means there’s a first in charge. 

00:45:35:00 – 00:45:37:21

Speaker 1

In the comics. Do you really think they’re going to go that deep cut? 

00:45:37:21 – 00:45:49:27

Speaker 2

I’m just saying I don’t. In a moment like this, I feel like you have to almost run down all the possibilities. And it’s completely possible that she’s not at this point, like technically a variant of Loki. 

00:45:50:04 – 00:45:51:11

Speaker 1

I because describe. 

00:45:51:12 – 00:46:03:19

Speaker 2

She also what I get. Yeah well the thing about this way as she became a variant when she was a child, which means kid Loki somewhere stepped off. That’s how I would have had to have happened. 

00:46:04:05 – 00:46:06:18

Speaker 1

Yeah. Here was the God of mischief. 

00:46:06:29 – 00:46:11:23

Speaker 2

Right. And I guess he’s shapeshifting, but how do you become a girl? 

00:46:12:06 – 00:46:14:28

Speaker 1

Gender fluid. And he’s like a God who cares? 

00:46:14:28 – 00:46:19:18

Speaker 2

As a child he was like, I’m going. I’m now a variant and I decide to be a girl. 

00:46:19:18 – 00:46:21:04

Speaker 1

Maybe that’s how he became a variant. 

00:46:21:12 – 00:46:29:00

Speaker 2

I don’t know. I just thought, That’s a little weird. To me. That’s just not that specifically. But just like. The whole becoming a variant as a. 

00:46:31:11 – 00:46:40:11

Speaker 2

Child. Well, just the whole becoming a variant, especially knowing that the TVA is essentially all variants. So why these two? The exception. 

00:46:40:22 – 00:46:42:00

Speaker 1

Nobody else has magic. 

00:46:42:22 – 00:46:44:08

Speaker 2

Oh, I cannot believe that. 

00:46:44:08 – 00:47:00:11

Speaker 1

Not in the TVA, do you? I think they kill the powerful ones. They Kill the powerful because Peggy Carter, she may not be magical, but she’s a powerful lady. I don’t see her running around the TVA anymore, Do you?

 00:47:00:24 – 00:47:03:25

Speaker 2

Well, I also was just a possible Easter egg. I’m just saying. 

00:47:04:04 – 00:47:04:29

Speaker 1

I’m just saying. 

00:47:05:11 – 00:47:07:15

Speaker 2

They were going to be like, Here’s Peggy if.

00:47:07:15 – 00:47:21:23

Speaker 1

You extra. I’m saying maybe they take the powerful and the knowledgeable and the ones who have a special set of skills or magic or whatever it might be like if there were a doctor. Strange variant, I guess, I think that they would be like, Oh yeah, my my all powerful person. 

00:47:22:01 – 00:47:22:10

Speaker 2

Who knows. 

00:47:22:10 – 00:47:23:12

Speaker 1

All our secrets with. 

00:47:23:12 – 00:47:38:18

Speaker 2

That is any good evil organization knows that, especially if they’re mind wiping people that if you mind wipe a super powerful person, they become your little favorite play toy. And they are now you’re a little powerful person. Okay.

 00:47:39:08 – 00:47:48:10

Speaker 1

Let me rebut you. Look, both Loki and Enchantress Sylvie have mind controlling powers, right? 

00:47:49:27 – 00:47:52:29

Speaker 1

And have and Loki has made a point to say, well. 

00:47:52:29 – 00:47:55:21

Speaker 2

We were is Loki’s mind control, but he doesn’t have mind control. 

00:47:55:21 – 00:47:56:28

Speaker 1

I know he did it with the scepter. 

00:47:57:02 – 00:47:57:24

Speaker 2

Yeah. So he doesn’t. 

00:47:57:24 – 00:48:12:23

Speaker 1

Have it, but he will give me back my right back. Okay. We take a step back. He may not be able to mind control, but he has said multiple times the reason she can’t control him is because he has a strong mind, because she practices magic, yet protected his mind from tampering. 

00:48:12:29 – 00:48:13:09

Speaker 2

Right. 

00:48:13:10 – 00:48:30:02

Speaker 1

So she controls minds. His got a super strong mind in terms of defense from outside forces. So they would be two people who would not be candidates for TV like TVA. My wife’s, because of their nature. 

00:48:30:14 – 00:48:53:09

Speaker 2

I mean, I guess I guess it’s also we don’t really know the whole life mind wipe story. So how powerful is it? Like, how does it work? We don’t really know the background to that. So once again, I feel like we’re building a theory of a theory. One last thing I do need to bring up before anything, as we’re kind of talking about power Loki’s powers, what the heck? 

00:48:53:13 – 00:49:06:25

Speaker 2

Now let me just say I am so happy because he is one of the most powerful in the comics. He literally sits there. I know there’s one. I don’t remember what story exactly where he’s with Doctor Strange and Scarlet Witch, and they’re just having a good old heyday of fighting things. I figure I don’t know the whole story. 

00:49:07:16 – 00:49:27:15

Speaker 2

Well, I know the whole story, but not off the top of my head at the present moment. He is one of the most powerful. He’s been greatly downplayed in the MCU, along with other characters. But we will not bring that in right now. And finally, the show is like, oh, by the way, here’s all his extra powers. He shoots the green stuff now, which we’ve never seen before. 

00:49:27:21 – 00:49:31:29

Speaker 2

He stopped that massive building from falling, which was really cool. 

00:49:32:21 – 00:49:41:08

Speaker 1

I just I just want to point out, this is like mere weeks from when the Hulk picked him up and smashed him around. 

00:49:41:08 – 00:49:51:07

Speaker 2

Like, Wow, that’s really valid. Actually. I know, because we never see his powers anywhere in the sacred timeline, but he’s doing it like he always. Yeah. 

00:49:51:22 – 00:50:05:10

Speaker 1

Even like, okay, so I just watched Avengers two nights ago and last night I kind of split it. He there a scene where he’s on the balcony, a stark tower with or this is pre Hulk smash and they’re like. 

00:50:05:19 – 00:50:06:11

Speaker 2

He core. 

00:50:06:12 – 00:50:15:26

Speaker 1

Fighting. Yeah they’re fighting fist a fist scepter to hammer. At no point does Loki get hope Hulk Thor off of him. 

00:50:15:26 – 00:50:34:02

Speaker 2

By Pupu and push back. Yeah that’s a that’s kind of definitely a little bit of a plot hole just because I mean yeah, because where would he have literally learned this? Like it’s it seemed second nature to him to have reacted the way he does. 

00:50:34:05 – 00:50:37:18

Speaker 1

So why didn’t he use it against us? 

00:50:38:04 – 00:50:54:21

Speaker 2

Well, that’s what I mean. It’s almost like if it wasn’t a fact, like, okay, if it wasn’t the way it was, I would say, Oh, because sacred timeline Loki never learned. Yeah, those powers. But the thing is, is like we don’t ever see a moment where he’s like, like literally all they would have had to do was put in a moment where he’s like, I never knew I could do that. 

00:50:55:05 – 00:50:57:14

Speaker 2

And then, boom, solve the entire issue. 

00:50:57:19 – 00:51:12:10

Speaker 1

The only workaround and this one’s a stretch is that time moves differently in the TVA. So potentially it’s been a thousand years since the Avengers fight. It wasn’t last week, it was a thousand years ago. That’s the only way to. Even. Explain to. 

00:51:13:09 – 00:51:24:19

Speaker 2

Why we don’t ever see him, because he can’t use his powers in the TVA. And he’s spent most of his time so far in the TVA. And when he wasn’t in TVA, he was surrounded by TVA agents where he was also not using his magic. 

00:51:25:29 – 00:51:27:21

Speaker 1

I don’t know, man. I was just trying know. 

00:51:27:28 – 00:51:41:08

Speaker 2

I thought the same thing. But that stick almost the answer to it and that I would think, like you can’t really explain it that way, only because he couldn’t have used his magic. That’s why I said all you had to do is do a throwaway line the first time he did it and just be like, Whoa, I never knew I could do that. 

00:51:41:10 – 00:51:41:19

Speaker 1

Yeah. 

00:51:41:19 – 00:51:46:06

Speaker 2

Boom. Never been a never been a plot hole and or even that one he like.

00:51:46:06 – 00:51:49:26

Speaker 1

Because I feel like we saw that with Wanda when she was like, Wow. 

00:51:49:27 – 00:52:12:07

Speaker 2

With that. Yeah. She was like, Oh, okay, all this power, what the heck is going on? That’s what I mean. Like, I literally they could have done that even with the building falling like, even if Sylvia just said something there too. And I’m like, Did you know you could do that too? And he just was like, No, like literally, boom, Too simple little like one liners almost. 

00:52:12:16 – 00:52:17:18

Speaker 2

Oh, same. But like two, almost very simple one liners. But let’s talk. About that scene really quick, because if he. 

00:52:19:18 – 00:52:38:07

Speaker 2

Put the building back together or did he move it back in time like Doctor Strange style with the Stone? Because that’s what that reminded me of. Ooh, I didn’t catch that government because he put it right back the way it was and it was falling. So did he just happen to put it back up or was it similar to the whole, you know, with the interpreter? 

00:52:38:08 – 00:52:42:27

Speaker 1

No, I know what you’re saying. Or strange did it in. Was it the Tokyo sanctum? 

00:52:42:28 – 00:52:44:06

Speaker 2

Yeah, right. Yeah. 

00:52:45:08 – 00:53:19:27

Speaker 1

I totally see what you’re saying. I interpreted it the first time and your I really like your, your analysis there, but when I read it, I read it and watched it every time. When I watched it, I interpret it as, Oh, he just moved the building like, like, like fit, like forcefield almost he forcefield like because he went like, you guys can’t see this, but I’m doing an arm motion where he kind of pushes it back and almost like there’s a field of energy coming out of him pushing the building back. 

00:53:19:27 – 00:53:42:09

Speaker 2

Which make sense to me. And I kind of like I thought about it then I was like, Wait a second, It would make sense of the building, like crumbled, but it went right back to standing straight back, you know what I mean? But she why? I was like, Huh, That reminds me a lot of time or strange with the time stone because it’s that almost back to exactly how it was. 

00:53:42:15 – 00:53:48:14

Speaker 2

Yeah. Not to mention, granted, everything was blowing up, but that could have created a variant of its own. That building was. Not supposed to be seen. 

00:53:50:04 – 00:54:01:08

Speaker 2

But whatever. But yeah, I just wanted to bring out his powers especially. But I like specifically that scene because that was. That was weird. That was weird. 

00:54:01:15 – 00:54:05:16

Speaker 1

Like, I just look, you have time manipulation powers because. Well, think about it, too. 

00:54:05:27 – 00:54:37:20

Speaker 2

Sylvie sat there and said she taught herself her powers. It’s very possible that he did it. That’s the only issue that I have with the very end. Has all these powers that are Loki. Never did. That’s the only problem I have with it. Because if you literally just threw those one liners in there, it would have been like, Oh, he’s learning new powers that he never was put in, in enough of a position before to use because Loki didn’t use a lot of powers past the first Avengers, you know, like he did some stuff, but like he didn’t do a ton without, you know. 

00:54:37:20 – 00:54:41:18

Speaker 2

So I don’t know. That was just I needed to bring that up. 

00:54:41:24 – 00:54:44:10

Speaker 1

Now, as a good point, I’m glad we didn’t forget. That because, yeah. It’s kind of a big deal that like because it happened in the last 5 minutes, I feel like it’s easy to miss or gloss over like, well, a thousand things are blowing up. 

00:54:51:29 – 00:55:06:08

Speaker 2

Or okay, you want to really quick talk about the last 5 minutes. The episode ended and they didn’t get the energy from the arc. The arc actually fell apart, which is how the arc never got off of the planet. They find that out now. Their initial plan was supposed to be the arc was they were going to make the arc get off. 

00:55:06:26 – 00:55:19:12

Speaker 1

Which I would have loved to know. I really I said to you in the middle of the episode, who’s on the arc that’s gonna survive, right? You know, I’m trying to think of people who are from like, is it some important Kree person? 

00:55:19:12 – 00:55:28:28

Speaker 2

But I will also point out, does it matter also 50 years in the future? So even if you could play it pretty well. Yeah, but even if it was somebody, it wouldn’t affect our timeline. No, it would not. But it could be a cool character. 

00:55:29:27 – 00:55:37:03

Speaker 2

Yeah, but yeah, that’s another point I wanted to really quite bring up too, was just like, So the plan didn’t work. And then the episode ended. 

00:55:38:29 – 00:56:10:14

Speaker 1

So then this move that’s about to go boom, boom, and he has no way off. So is there going to be a magical tesseract that shows up Alternatively, what if So she created all those varying timelines. What if, just as this particular boom boom is about to happen, that becomes a variant and it hits the red line and it becomes a multiverse? 

00:56:10:29 – 00:56:25:14

Speaker 1

Like what if it doesn’t have to happen, right? Like, do you know what I’m saying? Because she created a bunch of a bunch of variants. So what if, you know, not all of them are listed on the board? What if this was one of them and something different is going to happen? 

00:56:25:14 – 00:56:32:13

Speaker 2

Yeah, but I feel like if it was going to happen differently, it would have happened before. Most of the planet was falling apart. 

00:56:32:22 – 00:56:33:16

Speaker 1

Not necessarily. 

00:56:33:16 – 00:56:51:28

Speaker 2

Especially because she seemed very calculating and where she sent them and she didn’t seem like she knew it was there. This was one of her hideouts. And you have to remember that. So every time in time and things as as it happened, that moon slash planet thing is supposed to blow up.

00:56:52:09 – 00:57:01:05

Speaker 1

Right. I get that. I’m just saying it’s possible. I’m trying to figure out, like, hypothetically, how could they get off there without. 

00:57:01:27 – 00:57:06:10

Speaker 2

Well, they’re going to obviously have to. Right. But I don’t think it can be possible. That’s very obvious. And Mobius is going to come for him. 

00:57:08:00 – 00:57:23:10

Speaker 2

I almost wonder, because I would think they must have an idea of where they went. But either way, I mean, they also had two magical beings. Maybe if they put their heads together instead of arguing with each other half the time, well, lucky. 

00:57:23:18 – 00:57:26:06

Speaker 1

Comics can travel interdimensional. 

00:57:26:10 – 00:57:47:19

Speaker 2

So I just wonder if we can figure something out there. I honestly for a second, if we hadn’t been in the future, would have just been like, he’s going to call him Bill. But then I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh, I totally forgot. We’re in the future. And there’s literally no Asgard to summon. Heimdall. Well, yeah, but there is also no Asgard to even have the Bifrost Bifrost for. 

00:57:47:20 – 00:57:49:28

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, the Bifrost doesn’t necessarily have to go to Alaska. 

00:57:50:03 – 00:57:51:00

Speaker 2

Yeah, but still. It’s like he said. 

00:57:51:24 – 00:58:01:26

Speaker 2

He’s not going to send that risk. Or send that risk because you were saying sent. He’s not going to take that risk right now because he’s 50 years in the future. Right. I’m just actually seeing the. 

00:58:02:16 – 00:58:05:04

Speaker 1

Same Heimdall saved Hulk by sending him to Earth. 

00:58:05:19 – 00:58:06:09

Speaker 2

Well, right. But with the. Virus that was also in 2018. How does that work now? 50 years later? You know, you know. 

00:58:15:22 – 00:58:26:23

Speaker 1

I didn’t understand how the Bifrost worked in 2011, 2012, whenever Thor, the Dark World, came out or 2018. Yeah, I sure as heck am not going to understand the bifrost now. 

00:58:27:07 – 00:58:35:07

Speaker 2

Well, either way, I know they’re obviously going to get off. It’s not like we’re only going in as a four. I mean, the only we are halfway done. 

00:58:36:07 – 00:58:42:05

Speaker 1

I don’t want to talk about that because there is not an announcement for our next one, a next series, one. 

00:58:42:05 – 00:58:58:16

Speaker 2

It’s also really sad that Black Widow is coming out in the middle of it because it’s like you can’t even fully get hyped for something else to come because Black Widow is overlapping with something you already have. Like you have content. Why are you smashing other content on top of it? So then we don’t have a movie until Shang-Chi. 

00:58:59:01 – 00:59:04:13

Speaker 1

Which to be fair, is the second is like the first beginning in September. It’s like. 

00:59:04:21 – 00:59:08:21

Speaker 2

That’s still dry for two months when you at least could have had. 

00:59:09:06 – 00:59:10:14

Speaker 1

Maybe only six weeks. 

00:59:10:25 – 00:59:15:13

Speaker 2

Okay, But you still could have had Black Widow come out like even in August. No, I mean, I agree with you now. 

00:59:15:13 – 00:59:18:25

Speaker 1

I’m just saying it’s not like it’s like we’ve gone six weeks before. 

00:59:18:25 – 00:59:29:08

Speaker 2

Yeah, no, I know, but any who I think we’ve touched on, to my knowledge, everything that really happened in this episode. Yeah. 

00:59:29:24 – 00:59:38:29

Speaker 1

I think we hit the stuff that you and I were kind of discussing during the episode, kind of like gave each other the crazy eyes about, Oh. 

00:59:39:13 – 00:59:43:01

Speaker 2

Oh my gosh, did you catch that too? Holy crap. 

00:59:43:11 – 00:59:49:08

Speaker 1

Oh, my God, what’s he doing? Oh, except for the one thing that I enjoyed potentially most of all. 

00:59:50:03 – 00:59:56:17

Speaker 2

Drunk Loki. Oh, you mean when he did a callback to Thor with another? Yes. Yeah. 

00:59:56:19 – 00:59:58:24

Speaker 1

Also Loki singing. 

00:59:58:26 – 01:00:20:14

Speaker 2

Yeah. No, that was a great scene, and I thought it was so funny. She wakes up and he’s freaking life of the party. But also it’s again, Ragnarok vibe. So I think we’ve now touched on everything. If you’re if you’re good, I’m done. Okay, so Loki, episode three. That’s it. That’s a wrap for that. I mean, next week, of course, next Wednesday we have Loki Episode four. 

01:00:20:29 – 01:00:23:14

Speaker 2

As I said before, we are now more than halfway. Also next week it’s going to be an extra long episode, so get your ears ready because we will not only be breaking down Loki Episode four, but also doing an extra special episode where we give our previews and our predictions of black Widow’s solo movie, which comes out on July 9th. But we will be watching it Thursday night. So expect by, I would say, the next the following Saturday. While you guys are all watching it, Friday and Saturday are episode four. It will be airing with our initial reactions and thoughts and just everything we have to say about it. 

01:01:02:09 – 01:01:26:13

Speaker 1

Yeah, So to bring it down and to recap all this coming down the pipeline next week, we’re going to do an episode four of Loki Breakdown Plus are super awesome predictions related to Black Widow. Then the following week we’re going to drop our episode on Saturday instead of the usual Friday, because we will include not only Loki Episode five breakdowns, but our initial reactions to Black Widow. 

01:01:26:14 – 01:01:28:02

Speaker 2

So be prepared for doubleheaders.

 01:01:28:02 – 01:01:36:17

Speaker 1

Essentially Yeah, some episodes. So charge the AirPods, charge the phones, do what you got to do. We’re in for some good stuff now. 

01:01:36:24 – 01:01:38:13

Speaker 2

A lot of content in the next two weeks. 

01:01:38:22 – 01:01:52:08

Speaker 1

Yes. So that is officially a wrap. Now that we’ve talked about everything coming down the pike, please remember to give our podcast a subscribe. Please give it a like a comment, share with your friends and don’t forget to. Follow the blog. 

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01:02:04:08 – 01:02:05:06

Speaker 3

Especially. 

01:02:05:15 – 01:02:26:01

Speaker 2

Especially the local teams. They’re great and so I’m very excited. Please feel free to always be in contact, tweeted us. We will be back. And that is of course, let’s talk MFT. And as always, once again, keep up with the Loki episodes and be prepared to keep up with Black Widow. Make sure you guys are going out there and watch it because Marvel just blow your mind, so let’s talk about it.